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Microsoft details speed improvements in Win 8

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wirednuts said:
you watch win8 turns out to be by surprise the best fucking os ever made by any company but its sales never take off because there is no start button. then, 2 years later they release windows 9 thats essentially win8 but they add a start button and advertise coca cola style by claiming "the best things in this world should never die" with rolling stones music in the foreground loud and clear. the 'new' os goes on to smash all software records and still, 10 years later everyone fucking HATES win8.
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thats just business in general!
 
Spungo said:
Sleep is protected against power failures as well. What messes up hard drives and USB drives is write caching.
memory -> hard drive cache -> hard drive platter

Suppose you are working in MS Word and you save the document. You did the proper save procedure and Windows says it saved. Suddenly there is a power failure and your computer shuts off. Your Word document might have been destroyed because it was written to the hard drive cache and the drive lost power before it was able to write from the cache to the platter. This same issue has messed up a lot of USB thumb drives. Instead of writing to the drive immediately, the document is cached. The person pulls the drive out before the cache writes to disk. As far as the OS knows, it was saved and all of the data is there. It will only give an error when someone tries to open the file and Word says the file is garbage.

Sleep avoids this problem by clearing the cache before going to sleep. You can put the computer to sleep then pull the plug. It will say "hey you shouldn't have done that" but it didn't actually destroy anything. That Word document you saved before going to sleep is properly saved to the platter.
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AFAIK sleep is not protected against open files or other potentially sensitive "running states" (where the software itselfs expects to be able write to disk before terminating). If you only had to save your document and then pull the plug (virtually), software (including OSes) should shutdown instantly. However, a lot of software (including Windows) does not, although theoretically a lot of software could be programmed in such a way.
 
"Windows 8 takes 40% less time than Windows 7 to render 64images (4.38 seconds vs. 7.28 seconds)". I guess if you have your pr0n on a SSD that will be useful. I rarely view SVGs and it looks like IE is already fast at that. The Direct2D stuff is nice but I'm not expecting many desktop apps to be using it even after the death of XP.
 
beginner99 said:
I stopped reading after one of the first sentences containing more or less "..for WinRT only..." (=Metro).
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That's probably the most important thing to take away from the whole blog. There are a lot of neat features, but they only apply to Metro. That's the advantage of creating a new API from the ground up: you can build it off of the latest technologies.
 
WinRT has extremely poor text rendering. Does not use cleartype. Who cares if it is fast, text has been next to instant on computers for the last 30 years.
 
beginner99 said:
I stopped reading after one of the first sentences containing more or less "..for WinRT only..." (=Metro).
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Hrmm... are you talking about this sentence?

"WinRT bring these capabilities to the full range of new Windows 8 applications."

Are you sure they don't mean "will also work in WinRT"? Doesn't DirectX already work on the desktop? In every other line, they refer to it generally as "in Windows 8". If all this is only for Metro, they have a weird way of not making this very clear in the article (from what I can tell).
 
ninaholic37 said:
Hrmm... are you talking about this sentence?

"WinRT bring these capabilities to the full range of new Windows 8 applications."

Are you sure they don't mean "will also work in WinRT"? Doesn't DirectX already work on the desktop? In every other line, they refer to it generally as "in Windows 8". If all this is only for Metro, they have a weird way of not making this very clear in the article (from what I can tell).
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I agree its not clear at all and that was my interpretation. But WinRT = Win 8 for ARM which is Metro-only. And all the screenshots do look like metro.

Then I always find relativ only benchmark retarded. It's 5 times faster!!! Took 5 ns now only 1 ns. Wow. how cares?
 
beginner99 said:
I agree its not clear at all and that was my interpretation. But WinRT = Win 8 for ARM which is Metro-only. And all the screenshots do look like metro.
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Keep in mind that WinRT is also the name of the Metro API.
 
JackMDS said:
I wonder how many of the additional click (to get to the Desktop) is causing me Unbearable Anxiety are also on the list of people that leave their computers On 24/7? :awe:


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Oh come on. That's not fair. Sure I leave my systems on 24/7 once they are properly configured (both hardware and software), but as a tech geek I tend to toy with new hardware or updated softwares. Do I have to go through a week-long hardware test staring invisible areas around the corner of my screen, waiting for the mouse cursor to change, upon every reboot or log-in?
 
I dont think flash works right in Win 8? It gave me such a hard time trying to watch videos on Hulu, dramafever, and viki, that I reinstalled Vista.

I dont know if it was my old integrated MB or just that Win 8 did not work right.

I was using an Intel DG35EC motherboard with an Intel E7200 Processor.

Win 8 did seem quite a bit faster.

I think all of the talk about one or two clicks is kind of silly and childish. Maybe they will make games that will start from apps??? Win 8 can confuse people. I got into the properties screen and couldnt figure out how to navigate from that screen. You dont have a button to click for apply or OK. So you sit there trying to figure it out. Stupid Microsoft should have had some kind of instructions after you log in the first time expaining how it works. Even a new video game has some helpful hints how to do stuff. Dont figure. They just hid everything and left it up to you to figure it out.

Then when you ask on the Microsoft forum why you cant do something one way or another, they just say there is a way to do it but it is not an officially supported method. Microsoft is just too unflexable as an OS Designer. No reason you cant do things in a few different ways. It is like Microsoft is saying "I dont care about users, Do things our way or it is the highway!" That is the message I get from Microsoft.
 
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piasabird said:
I dont think flash works right in Win 8? It gave me such a hard time trying to watch videos on Hulu, dramafever, and viki, that I reinstalled Vista.

I dont know if it was my old integrated MB or just that Win 8 did not work right.

I was using an Intel DG35EC motherboard with an Intel E7200 Processor.

Win 8 did seem quite a bit faster.
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Flash fully works in Windows 8 on the desktop version of IE. As for the Metro version, it has Flash built-in (ugg), but it's only enabled for a select few whitelisted sites that MS controls. There it basically serves as a backwards compatibility bridge for sites that are dragging behind and haven't upgraded to HTML5 yet.
 
All I can say is Flash did not work from the desktop for me. I tried it for a long time. That could have been due to the motherboard chipset drivers not being updated or something, but I got tired of playing with it.

That motherboard is not full 1080p so that could have been part of the problem.
 
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