Mickey Avalon is the next big white rapper

[pcgeek11]

Rap has been around a very long time, by definition, and most of it I have never been a huge fan of personally.

To be honest, you have never been too musically inclined to begin with as far as I know, got me.

You play what instrument ?

Rap was around long before that in several ways, Blondie even predated a lot of the modern versions though.

I guess it depends on where you draw the line. I do not consider Blondie as Rap. In any sense. The closest thing I can think of as Rap that I like would be Rappers Delight. Maybe I should say that I don't think modern Rap is music, it is just some dude taking crap, flapping his hands around and grabbing his crotch while some music is playing.

That is so annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar7sKNb4UUE

I do enjoy listening to music, but I do not play any musical instruments.

 

[smackababy]

There is still authenticity in singing that there isn't in rapping. Like, singing has so many more ranges of vocal inflections and pre-language communication. There is much more of a performance with singing than rapping. It takes lung power to sing, it really stretches the vocal chords to sing. Rapping not at all.

Again, try doing it. There is plenty of authenticity and there is plenty performance about it. If you think it doesn't take lung power, cadence, articulation to rap, you're either thick or being disingenuous. Your argument is banal and is attempting to claim some form of complexity is what makes music "better" or "authentic". Steve Vai is far superior in his ability to play guitar than Kurt Cobain, but that doesn't mean his music is better.

I've listened to Tupac, biggie, jay z, etc. did not find them appealing in the least.

And? You don't like a genre of music? Wow.

Rap being club music is...eh, the Beatles were originally club music. All music is club music and for social gatherings. Music is how community is formed, and people form cliches based on the music they like.

Again, what is the point? Specific types of music are tailored towards specific types of listening.

If you look at it from 30,000 ft, like say you don't speak English. Or go out and find someone rapping in a foreign language and compare it to someone singing in a foreign language. You're going to find the singing much more appealing.

Why would I? That is an assumption based on nothing. Perhaps, the singing is in a much less appealing key and tone than simply spoken word of the language in question. And, if we are talking about what is more appealing to an outsider, we might as well throw away any written works done by in Cyrillic or French or whatever because it isn't as visually appealing as say Arabic or Japanese.

 

[desura]

Again, try doing it. There is plenty of authenticity and there is plenty performance about it. If you think it doesn't take lung power, cadence, articulation to rap, you're either thick or being disingenuous. Your argument is banal and is attempting to claim some form of complexity is what makes music "better" or "authentic". Steve Vai is far superior in his ability to play guitar than Kurt Cobain, but that doesn't mean his music is better.

And? You don't like a genre of music? Wow.

Again, what is the point? Specific types of music are tailored towards specific types of listening.

Why would I? That is an assumption based on nothing. Perhaps, the singing is in a much less appealing key and tone than simply spoken word of the language in question. And, if we are talking about what is more appealing to an outsider, we might as well throw away any written works done by in Cyrillic or French or whatever because it isn't as visually appealing as say Arabic or Japanese.

All I got for you is what is with the phenomena of rappers having to rely on singers for choruses? Why can't the rappers do the chorus themselves? As I have said...rappers use a lower register of the vocal range typically, and simply is less interesting than singing, because the key is just the same as conversational speech. Singing covers all the ranges. It also is much more monotonous than most music and there isn't really the interesting shifts in musical structure I hear elsewhere. It is more heavily reliant on artificial production than other forms of music as well. With rap, it makes more sense to follow the producers like Pharrel Williams than the actual rappers, who are kind of interchangeable.

 

[nakedfrog]

Everything desura posts is just dumb as fuck.

 

[skull]

The "rap isn't music" or "rap is terrible" argument has been done here plenty of times, and what it always comes down to is people want to trash other people's taste in music in order to order to defend their own, or stroke their ego by snidely looking down at others. It's the same reason food snobs bash other people's tastes.

Even if there's some objective approach or metric, it doesn't matter if you think x or y genre is "better": plenty of people enjoy rap, and if you think it sucks either do something positive about it (go teach a classical music or jazz appreciation class or something) ... or acquiesce to ineffectual whining and complaining, just realize what you are doing is meaningless.

Its not that I don't like rap its that I don't like the message. Rap is mostly about jewelry, clothes, shoes, cars, hoes and especially violence all superficial bullshit. My buddy had me make him a usb stick for a trip. I had everything from country, rock, rap, pop, hick-hop and metal on there for him. All stuff I like thats in my music folder. He mainly listens to rap, he got to some hatebreed and called me what the hell is this devil music? Come on T thats just some motivational music, to get you you all inspired. He goes yeah inspired to kill someone, I'm like have you listened to the lyrics? Its all about believing in yourself, doing the right thing, being responsible for your own actions and working hard. That rap you always listen to explicitly talks about guns and shooting people in almost every song. He still don't get it, asking why do they have to scream it at me it sounds so hateful. I just shook my head. The good news is he loves hick-hop, its all I hear him jamming to now.

 

[nakedfrog]

Its not that I don't like rap its that I don't like the message. Rap is mostly about jewelry, clothes, shoes, cars, hoes and especially violence all superficial bullshit.

Nah. Some of it is, and if your rap exposure is limited, that's probably all you hear.

 

[skull]

Nah. Some of it is, and if your rap exposure is limited, that's probably all you hear.

Theres stuff like mos def - theives in the night. That sends a good message but you listen to the rest of the music from the same people and its more of the usual.

 

[ElFenix]

mickey avalon being mainstream is kind of an interesting thought.