Michigan Folks, How are you voting on Proposal 2? (Poll Inside)

[venkman]

Stem Cell Research Ballot Question Committee

Ballot Wording as approved by the Board of State Canvassers

August 21, 2008





PROPOSAL 08-2



A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ADDRESS HUMAN EMBRYO AND HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IN MICHIGAN

The proposed constitutional amendment would:

Expand use of human embryos for any research permitted under federal law subject to the following limits: the embryos ?
? are created for fertility treatment purposes;

? are not suitable for implantation or are in excess of clinical needs;

? would be discarded unless used for research;

? were donated by the person seeking fertility treatment.

Provide that stem cells cannot be taken from human embryos more than 14 days after cell division begins.
Prohibit any person from selling or purchasing human embryos for stem cell research.
Prohibit state and local laws that prevent, restrict or discourage stem cell research, future therapies and cures.

I am voting a definite YES! Especially if other states around the country turn this one down. It would bring in a lot of jobs as companies interested in this research would re-locate to Michigan and would be a boost for our economy. If this passes and Granholm has any sense in her, she would immediately offer a a large tax incentive for companies that move to Michigan. I would recommend 3 year discount on business income taxes that these companies would have to pay if they stayed in the state at least 12 years (the average yearly tax of the previous three years forgiven every fourth year). They have a chance to introduce a new industry to an area that BADLY needs it and I hope it passes.

It would also create accounting jobs as these companies would scramble to find the best way to make bank on those rules.

 

[umbrella39]

I am voting yes, especially in light of the bullshit ads MiCAUSE has been running about how it would cost billions even though there are no provisions for government funding of research. They are afraid to come out with their religious freak talk in their ads so they are resorting to BS FUD and fronting themselves under their umbrella group, MiCAUSE.

I think it is going to pass.

 

[ScottyB]

Yes.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I'm voting Yes. I also plan on voting yes for the medical marijuana proposal.

 

[mooseracing]

Undecided yet, haven't researched this enough as to how it has effected other states.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

It's somewhat ironic though not surprising that the Governor wants to fashion the state as being a place for life sciences research when its opposition to stem cell research has revealed it to be a Neanderthal-like backwater. Also, has anyone else noticed that many of the new license plates have a double helix going down the middle (symbolizing DNA)? The irony is just laughable.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

It's somewhat ironic though not surprising that the Governor wants to fashion the state as being a place for life sciences research when its opposition to stem cell research has revealed it to be a Neanderthal-like backwater. Also, has anyone else noticed that many of the new license plates have a double helix going down the middle (symbolizing DNA)? The irony is just laughable.

Yup, noticed that on mine this year.

Anyways I'm voting yes.

 

[Corbett]

Definitely voting no.

 

[umbrella39]

How about prop 1? What say ye about medical marijuana?

 

[newnameman]

I don't see why this needs to be enshrined in the state constitution, so I'll be voting no.

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
I am voting yes, especially in light of the bullshit ads MiCAUSE has been running about how it would cost billions even though there are no provisions for government funding of research. They are afraid to come out with their religious freak talk in their ads so they are resorting to BS FUD and fronting themselves under their umbrella group, MiCAUSE.

I think it is going to pass.

But but but....what about Clone Corp??!!

I will be voting yes

 

[Squisher]

Yup

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Corbett
Definitely voting no.

Do you really think that we should be concerned about cells that don't have brains or consciousness? Did God tell you this?

Please keep your filthy religion out of the scientific research that might improve my health.

 

[halik]

ABSOLUTE YES

Keep in mind the opposition to prop2 comes from religious nutcases, not fiscal conservatives. There's no tax payer cost or budget allocation.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Corbett
Definitely voting no.

Do you really think that we should be concerned about cells that don't have brains or consciousness? Did God tell you this?

Please keep your filthy religion out of the scientific research that might improve our health.

Holy rollers love to both opposite the research and use the meds.

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Corbett
Definitely voting no.

Do you really think that we should be concerned about cells that don't have brains or consciousness? Did God tell you this?

Please keep your filthy religion out of the scientific research that might improve my health.

where is all this coming from, how do you no thats why he is voting no?

 

[OrByte]

which groups in Michigan brought this amendment to the ballot?

 

[Marinski]

I will vote yes, along with yes on Prop 1 (legalization of medical pot).

 

[Squisher]

Anybody else seeing the ads on TV touting the costs associated with this proposal when similar proposals were enacted in other states? Seems the ads don't mention that the proposal has no mention of funding and there is no need to enact funding.

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Link to ad

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Corbett
Definitely voting no.

Do you really think that we should be concerned about cells that don't have brains or consciousness? Did God tell you this?

Please keep your filthy religion out of the scientific research that might improve my health.

I couldn't believe it this past Saturday when the Senior Pastor at our church called out the republican party for being against abortion but also not having any compassion and/or willingness to help out children without medical insurance, enough food to eat, young mothers without means (i.e., they didn't have an abortion, but can count on zero help from republicans for any type of support), etc.

He also called out the dems for sponsoring the right to choose, but having compassion for people who are already here.

Of course he said it in a way which most likely 90% of the peeps in church wouldn't understand what the heck he was talking about.

Oh well...he gave it a shot I suppose.

 

[Budarow]

One thing that completely ticks me off about the "liberal" media and the embryonic stem cell issue.

They always say "discarded" when referring to the frozen, unwanted embryos which are DESTROYED when they are no longer wanted by the women/families and flushed down the shitter (or put in with the other medical waste and landfilled/burned, etc.).

And they say destroyed when the eggs are used for research.

I know it's the same deal (i.e., destroyed in the end), but it seems like some undocumented rule of the heads at the media companies that it's reported this way.

 

[Slick5150]

The opposition actually said that supports of Prop 2 want to use "Weird Science". Yeah, curing diseases is "weird"

Voting yes