Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Genx87
Heh typical democrat stuff right there. Break the rules and get a second chance. It really is a shining example of the mentality in that party.
Is English your native language? Clearly you can't understand what happened.
Michigan violated the parties rules. So their delegates didn't count. Now Michigan has agreed to abide by their rules, so their delegates will count.
Clearly you got it 100 percent wrong.
Fail.
Huh? Let me get this straight. I fail english and then you go on the restate exactly what I said?
Michigan broke the rules and didnt have their delegates count.
Michigan may now get a second chance on June 3rd.
Like I said, the party of second chances is displaying it for all to see. I await the 2012 elections when more states break the rules, cry, and get a second chance. It hits nearly all the branches on the ideology tree.
Ok. I will explain it like I would to a non English speaker.
Democratic party rules forbid a state from having a primary before a certain date. Since Michigan held their primary before that date it didn't count under Democratic party rules.
Now Michigan has agreed to abide by the rules and hold a primary after the date the party set as the earliest date. So now they will be in compliance.
Originally posted by: senseamp
Don't forget the never ending second chances Bush is getting on Iraq.
Originally posted by: senseamp
We only support her campaign because she is the best out of the 3 left to run this country. It doesn't really matter to me how crushing the defeat would be if she loses. I'll just move on to supporting McCain if Obama is the nominee.
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: senseamp
We only support her campaign because she is the best out of the 3 left to run this country. It doesn't really matter to me how crushing the defeat would be if she loses. I'll just move on to supporting McCain if Obama is the nominee.
This attitude makes no sense. You're willing to vote for Hillary but if she loses the nomination you're going to vote for McCain? So, instead of voting for someone with basically the same agenda, nearly the same policies, and someone who would most likely consult with your top choice for President, you're going to become emotional and vote the other direction. How silly.
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: GDaddy
I find it odd that really only hillary supporters are for this. Everyone else more or less wants to follow the rules. With her campain going down, hill and her supporters will try anything to turn it around. Too many have lost the sense of Honor and Responsibility.
Responsibility to who? State officials have responsibility to their constituents, not the Democratic party. Democratic party got caught with its pants down. Did it really think it could get away with not counting Florida's delegates with it being the key battleground state in the election? I think Florida should insist that original vote be counted. There should be no second chances for those who decided not to campaign or be on ballots because the Democratic party told them to.
Originally posted by: techs
I especially find hypocritical the Republicans who decided if you break the rules we will only count half your delegates!
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: senseamp
We only support her campaign because she is the best out of the 3 left to run this country. It doesn't really matter to me how crushing the defeat would be if she loses. I'll just move on to supporting McCain if Obama is the nominee.
This attitude makes no sense. You're willing to vote for Hillary but if she loses the nomination you're going to vote for McCain? So, instead of voting for someone with basically the same agenda, nearly the same policies, and someone who would most likely consult with your top choice for President, you're going to become emotional and vote the other direction. How silly.
I trust Hillary to fight tooth and nail to represent my interests... I don't really trust Obama in any major shape or form. he just rubs me as way too smooth, kind of like Romney, and the rhetoric way too frequently doesn't match up with the record (hope only goes so far, for me, in the face of reality).
if my major interests are not going to be represented either way, in a McCain v Obama election, I may as well vote for the one that I trust more on national security and the only one with a solid record of working across the aisle to get shit done.
Originally posted by: techs
I especially find hypocritical the Republicans who decided if you break the rules we will only count half your delegates!
Originally posted by: senseamp
I think Florida should insist that original vote be counted. There should be no second chances for those who decided not to campaign or be on ballots because the Democratic party told them to.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: senseamp
We only support her campaign because she is the best out of the 3 left to run this country. It doesn't really matter to me how crushing the defeat would be if she loses. I'll just move on to supporting McCain if Obama is the nominee.
This attitude makes no sense. You're willing to vote for Hillary but if she loses the nomination you're going to vote for McCain? So, instead of voting for someone with basically the same agenda, nearly the same policies, and someone who would most likely consult with your top choice for President, you're going to become emotional and vote the other direction. How silly.
I trust Hillary to fight tooth and nail to represent my interests... I don't really trust Obama in any major shape or form. he just rubs me as way too smooth, kind of like Romney, and the rhetoric way too frequently doesn't match up with the record (hope only goes so far, for me, in the face of reality).
if my major interests are not going to be represented either way, in a McCain v Obama election, I may as well vote for the one that I trust more on national security and the only one with a solid record of working across the aisle to get shit done.
Originally posted by: Fern
IMO, they look absolutely brilliant compared to the Dems.
BY merely reducing the amount of delegates, the RNC was able to have their vote actually count. No need for this hypocritical and expensive do-over crap.
Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Fern
IMO, they look absolutely brilliant compared to the Dems.
BY merely reducing the amount of delegates, the RNC was able to have their vote actually count. No need for this hypocritical and expensive do-over crap.
Of course it worked out fine on the Repub side, the election wasn't even close so nobody cares. If there had been a very close contest on that side, and those reductions in delegates would have been critical in deciding the election, you can bet there would have been controversy about it.