Micheal Steele wins as GOP chairman

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: quest55720




No CAD is right GWB was a social conservative and fiscal liberal. If fiscal conservatives are the fringe then I am right there. The republican party under GWB turned in the democratic party light on fiscal issues. Big spending running up huge deficits are not what a fiscal conservative would do. Now that GWB is gone the republican party can move back to the right fiscally.

What are you talking about? Running up debts is what conservatives do. Ronald Reagan, GHWB, and GWB, presidents for 20 of the last 28 years, all Republicans, ran huge deficits every year they were in office. The only president to come close to a balanced budget, and actually pay down some of the debt, was the conservative Democrat, Bill Clinton.

The Republican standard operating procedure, cut taxes and increase spending, has never worked in the real world.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
:laugh: Gotta love the AP editorializing in it's "news". "the most moderate candidate in the field"...according to who's definition? A liberals? Puhleeze.

Anyway, I support Steele as GOP head and hope he does help remake the GOP into a better party but if that means becoming less Conservative - he will find his tenure short lived... The GOP masses are looking for strong Conservative leadership - not spineless BS.

Here teh problem with that... We went through 8 years of a strong conservative + control of house and senate for the first 6 and now the public sees what we got. its not going to happen again, sorry to break it to you.

No we didn't. There was not 8 years of "strong conservative". That's what I've been showing you. Just because you libs want to claim it was conservative doesn't make it so. Republican does not automatically mean Conservative and the last 6 years have proven it - both in the White House and Congress. And yes, the public saw what unConservative R "leadership" will do and voted them out. I say good riddance and lets bring on some real Conservatives and strong leaders because we will need it after seeing what only 2 years of lib control of Congress has done. Hopefully people will wake up from their "change" trance before things get too out of control and I think Steele just might be the guy to articulate what good Conservative leadership can do for the country. Time will tell if he succeeds - just as it will for your messiah.

Please tell us what that razor thin margin has done?

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
:laugh: Gotta love the AP editorializing in it's "news". "the most moderate candidate in the field"...according to who's definition? A liberals? Puhleeze.

Anyway, I support Steele as GOP head and hope he does help remake the GOP into a better party but if that means becoming less Conservative - he will find his tenure short lived... The GOP masses are looking for strong Conservative leadership - not spineless BS.

I hate the term "moderate" and I hope the GOP moves in the complete opposite direction as they have been for the past 40 years. We don't need the religious fascists and neo-cons running the party as they have been. The Republican party has been somewhat scitzophrenic with the core values of those 2 entities being completely opposite of what the Republican party has always stood for. How can a party espouse the ideals of personal responsibility while at the same time telling you you can't be trusted to act according to your individual morality? How can a party claim to be against unfettered governmental growth while at the same time acting like we should use our military to improve our economic position of influence in the world.

I'm tired of the neocon's and religious right hijacking of the GOP. It's time to return the party back to the party of Lincoln: Individual freedom and liberty and true fiscal governmental conversancy.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
:laugh: Gotta love the AP editorializing in it's "news". "the most moderate candidate in the field"...according to who's definition? A liberals? Puhleeze.

Anyway, I support Steele as GOP head and hope he does help remake the GOP into a better party but if that means becoming less Conservative - he will find his tenure short lived... The GOP masses are looking for strong Conservative leadership - not spineless BS.

Here teh problem with that... We went through 8 years of a strong conservative + control of house and senate for the first 6 and now the public sees what we got. its not going to happen again, sorry to break it to you.

No we didn't. There was not 8 years of "strong conservative". That's what I've been showing you. Just because you libs want to claim it was conservative doesn't make it so. Republican does not automatically mean Conservative and the last 6 years have proven it - both in the White House and Congress. And yes, the public saw what unConservative R "leadership" will do and voted them out. I say good riddance and lets bring on some real Conservatives and strong leaders because we will need it after seeing what only 2 years of lib control of Congress has done. Hopefully people will wake up from their "change" trance before things get too out of control and I think Steele just might be the guy to articulate what good Conservative leadership can do for the country. Time will tell if he succeeds - just as it will for your messiah.

Well, your right, Bush was hardly a fiscal conservative... The issue the reps will have is still the same, getting over what he did. he is viewed as a conservative and you have to admit, conservative or not, he badly damaged the republican name and that damage will last for years.

Honestly, there is a big split between the social and fiscal conservatives. Bush was obviously social. There is nothing wrong with the principals of the republican party... Being small govt. low taxes, business friendly and govt out of people personal lives. Those are all great things. too bad the social conservatives ruined your party. Much as the extreme libs like Pelosi ruined ours. Dammit I hate politics. I dont even know why I come here LOL

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
:laugh: Gotta love the AP editorializing in it's "news". "the most moderate candidate in the field"...according to who's definition? A liberals? Puhleeze.

Anyway, I support Steele as GOP head and hope he does help remake the GOP into a better party but if that means becoming less Conservative - he will find his tenure short lived... The GOP masses are looking for strong Conservative leadership - not spineless BS.

Here teh problem with that... We went through 8 years of a strong conservative + control of house and senate for the first 6 and now the public sees what we got. its not going to happen again, sorry to break it to you.

No we didn't. There was not 8 years of "strong conservative". That's what I've been showing you. Just because you libs want to claim it was conservative doesn't make it so. Republican does not automatically mean Conservative and the last 6 years have proven it - both in the White House and Congress. And yes, the public saw what unConservative R "leadership" will do and voted them out. I say good riddance and lets bring on some real Conservatives and strong leaders because we will need it after seeing what only 2 years of lib control of Congress has done. Hopefully people will wake up from their "change" trance before things get too out of control and I think Steele just might be the guy to articulate what good Conservative leadership can do for the country. Time will tell if he succeeds - just as it will for your messiah.

Well, your right, Bush was hardly a fiscal conservative... The issue the reps will have is still the same, getting over what he did. he is viewed as a conservative and you have to admit, conservative or not, he badly damaged the republican name and that damage will last for years.

Honestly, there is a big split between the social and fiscal conservatives. Bush was obviously social. There is nothing wrong with the principals of the republican party... Being small govt. low taxes, business friendly and govt out of people personal lives. Those are all great things. too bad the social conservatives ruined your party. Much as the extreme libs like Pelosi ruined ours. Dammit I hate politics. I dont even know why I come here LOL

Well I agree with you that their "principles" three of the things you listed, they are hardly for being out of personal lives. In my opinion, they are significantly worse than the democrats on wanting to interfere with what goes on in an individuals life. They just use a guise of "moral superiority" to justify it.

I agree with your other statements though, the social conservative movement is what pushed me out of being a moderate republican. I make lots of posts supporting liberal agendas here, but I'd still only consider myself a moderate democrat.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
:laugh: Gotta love the AP editorializing in it's "news". "the most moderate candidate in the field"...according to who's definition? A liberals? Puhleeze.

Anyway, I support Steele as GOP head and hope he does help remake the GOP into a better party but if that means becoming less Conservative - he will find his tenure short lived... The GOP masses are looking for strong Conservative leadership - not spineless BS.

I hate the term "moderate" and I hope the GOP moves in the complete opposite direction as they have been for the past 40 years. We don't need the religious fascists and neo-cons running the party as they have been. The Republican party has been somewhat scitzophrenic with the core values of those 2 entities being completely opposite of what the Republican party has always stood for. How can a party espouse the ideals of personal responsibility while at the same time telling you you can't be trusted to act according to your individual morality? How can a party claim to be against unfettered governmental growth while at the same time acting like we should use our military to improve our economic position of influence in the world.

I'm tired of the neocon's and religious right hijacking of the GOP. It's time to return the party back to the party of Lincoln: Individual freedom and liberty and true fiscal governmental conversancy.

Very well said. That would be a good thing for the Nation as a whole. I hope it happens sooner than later.:thumbsup:

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

lol, you libs are hilarious. Just because one panders to the base doesn't mean the base comes out or will vote for you. You see, we want to see RESULTS and when you consistently pander and then go to Washington and get all spineless and become ineffective - you get booted.
Conservatism works and wins - this "moderate" BS you libs are pushing as a fix for the GOP is nothing but political hackery and wishful thinking. The move should not be left as the GOP has already gone too far left (hello neocons? ). It needs to get back to some real Conservatism. Hopefully Steele can help move the GOP to a more consistent Conservative position on the things that matter like Fed budgeting.

'Conservatism never fails, it is only failed'!

By all means man, keep on going further to the right. Keep right on going! Ahahahahaha.

"going further"? Buahahaha... The reality is the GOP has been moving left lately... it's no wonder they are losing.

I would love to see these mental gymnastics.

It's quite simple - look at how the last 6 years have gone. Show me how the GOP has gone more "right" or Conservative.

do you want me to list them individually, or can i get away with a blanket 'pretty much everything'?

Good luck with that. There has been very little that the GOP has done that has moved to the right (Conservative) in the last 6 years. On the whole - it has moved left.
Amnesty support
Ever increasing Federal spending(biggest increase since Johnson?)
Prescription drug bill (more socialized fed BS)
Federal DOE increased 38% under Bush and R's
Do I need to mention how they (Bush and eventually congress) socialized banking(losses) with the bailout?

Yeah, clearly the GOP has moved right... :roll: Any Conservative will tell you that the past 6 years has been anything but a movement right.

when was the last time there was a small government republican? 1931?

prescription drug bill was a corporate handout, thats pretty typical conservative, bailing out banks was pretty bi-partisan though.

I don't think that you get was real conservative policies are in america.


Anyways i will give you that bush moved to the left a bit over his late 2 years, incidentally thats when he did the few good things he did in his presidency.

 

[RU482]

2009...YEAR OF THE BLACK MAN!!!

 

[RKDaley]

David Duke is not too happy.

I am glad these traitorous leaders of the Republican Party appointed this Black racist, affirmative action advocate to the head of the Republican party because this will lead to a huge revolt among the Republican base. As a former Republican official, I can tell you that millions of rank-and-file Republicans are mad as hell and aren?t going to take it anymore! We will either take the Republican Party back over the next four years or we will say, ?To Hell With the Republican Party!? And we will take 90 percent of Republicans with us into a New Party that will take its current place!

He calls Micheal Steel a racist. it's like the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended)

 

[BarneyFife]

Michael Steele=Uncle Tom

 

[imported_K3N]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Michael Steele=Uncle Tom

no way, he supports affirmative action, gun control, and opposed death penalty due to a disproportionate amount of blacks executed. BTW your sig is hilarious.

Lol at Duke's respons LMAO.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Michael Steele=Uncle Tom

Pathetic.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: RKDaley
David Duke is not too happy.

I am glad these traitorous leaders of the Republican Party appointed this Black racist, affirmative action advocate to the head of the Republican party because this will lead to a huge revolt among the Republican base. As a former Republican official, I can tell you that millions of rank-and-file Republicans are mad as hell and aren?t going to take it anymore! We will either take the Republican Party back over the next four years or we will say, ?To Hell With the Republican Party!? And we will take 90 percent of Republicans with us into a New Party that will take its current place!

He calls Micheal Steel a racist. it's like the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended)

lol...David Duke. Now that guy is a winner.

 

[Lemon law]

I certainly hope that David Duke takes himself and a few other malcontents of his ilk out of the Republican party to form a new party, lets call it the RBP for Religious Bigots Party.

The GOP will be much better off, the democrats will be better off, the larger country will be better off, and the RBP will maybe be able to slightly out poll the Libertarians as they wallow in political obscurity.

If nothing else, IMHO, the one over riding message from the republican primaries of 2008 was, while much of the existing GOP leadership basically proved they had lost touch with reality, the bulk of the GOP electorate proved in their votes, that they had not lost touch with reality or lost sight of core GOP principles. And the election of Micheal Steele is simply a continuation of that trend.