Michael Peterson guilty?

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That's just it, they 'felt' he was guilty. They went with a gut feeling. My gut feeling is that he probably was guilty, but the prosecution certainly didn't prove it. No motive, no murder weapon, a fraudulant expert witness, and a questionable police investigation all left a lot of reasonable doubt. I realize Peterson is probably getting what he deserves with the jury's verdict, but the whole system suffers when you start playing outside the rules like that.
 

alchemize

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Just like they "felt" OJ wasn't guilty :) The glove didn't fit dammit, he must be innocent! The jury system has it's issues...but I'll take it over, say, Iran's judicial system :)
 
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Originally posted by: Gaard
I thought the motive was the insurance money.

That was the prosecution's claim. It was pretty weak and I for one didn't buy it. I think it's far more likely he flipped out for some unknown reason and killed her in anger.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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The insurance money probably sounded like big money to the jury but he was an accomplished author, had sold a story as a screenplay, and the wife pulled down executive salary at Nortel.

Even in the Research Triangle, being gay (or bisexual) is a liability.

If a person with means can get convicted (albeit a southern court) without weapon or realistic motive then I feel for the po' people b/c they've got no hope . . . guilty or not.

No one kills as many wives as the husband but even following this from a distance (Chapel Hill) I never saw anything approaching great or even good evidence.
 

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No one kills as many wives as the husband but even following this from a distance (Chapel Hill) I never saw anything approaching great or even good evidence.

thats what killing me, the no evidence. you are right about the money...i dont see it as a plausible motive. as for the homosexual thing, i believe his story that it was just for research.
 

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Originally posted by: PatboyX
No one kills as many wives as the husband but even following this from a distance (Chapel Hill) I never saw anything approaching great or even good evidence.

thats what killing me, the no evidence. you are right about the money...i dont see it as a plausible motive. as for the homosexual thing, i believe his story that it was just for research.

It wouldnt be the first time someones been convicted of no physical evidence.
 

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Originally posted by: MrYogi
Originally posted by: PatboyX
i dont know, it just didnt make sense for him to kill her.

insurance money

he had plenty of money.
not that people arn't greedy but there are many easier and quicker ways for a successful author to make money. (see: clancy, grisham, crichton)
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Like I said, I didn't follow the trial closely but it was hard to avoid b/c it was on the news and in the paper daily. The prosecution prevailed b/c they presented a plausible case; gay white male with a history (according to the prosecution) of possibly killing a prior spouse kills the wife for $1.4m. Curiously, the death happened after they were celebrating the optioning of one of his stories for a major motion picture . . . but hey who bothers with logic in a trial.

Another motive was he killed his wife b/c she had confronted him about his gay lifestyle. Curiously, the record of that lifestyle was spartan and who isn't gay in the Triangle . . . j/k
 

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At least one of the jurors has spoken to the media about the verdict.

He said they disregarded the gay thing, the other woman from Germany, the blowpoke the defense produced (no one in their right mind ever should have considered that reasonable doubt).

They said her injuries were too severe and could not be caused by a fall from the stairs. There was dried blood on MP's shorts, the stairs and the walls, then a new layer of blood on top of that. There were neurons in KP's brain that said she was alive for 30 minutes to 2 hours after the initial attack.

Read here

 

BaliBabyDoc

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They said her injuries were too severe and could not be caused by a fall from the stairs. There was dried blood on MP's shorts, the stairs and the walls, then a new layer of blood on top of that. There were neurons in KP's brain that said she was alive for 30 minutes to 2 hours after the initial attack.

Mechanism of injury is an art NOT a science . . . that's the reason the prosecution implied MP used "something like" the fire poker to bludgeon his wife. I did not see the jury's info but if she had coup/contrecoup injuries (basically the brain banging around inside the cranium) that's more consistent with a fall NOT beating someone . . . unless of course he stood her up/hit her, stood her up/hit her, repeat 4 times, and then pushed her down the stairs. Blood dessication (drying) is a function of the blood amount, time on the surface, and the surface. If he went to his wife after the fall (which he says) held her for some period (which he says) went to call 911 (which he says) and then returns and touches his wife during the interval before EMS arrives (which he says) you will have blood in varying states of dessication. The blood on the stairs and walls would be in one state (depending of course on the surface, amount of blood, and time on the surface. If MP went upstairs for a phone, towel, or anything else he would track blood which would then produce blood stains in various states of evolution.

I don't know which neurons this article quotes but the wide confidence interval 30min to 2 hours after the initial incident has no meaning outside of the context of the story. Furthermore, they probably mean 30min to 2hr from attack to time of death. The prosecution says MP bludgeon his wife and then allowed some period of time to elapse to increase the likelihood she would die (or maybe he just wanted her to suffer). The defense says (maybe b/c I didn't follow the case) . . . he did not find her immediately after the fall (both had been drinking heavily that night) he did not witness the fall so the time elapsed could easily be within the stated range but it provides no evidence against MP . . . unless of course his story makes it impossible to account for the time lag. Last I checked MP was not a doctor so his frantic (sort of) call saying his wife was dead doesn't mean she was dead but certainly it could have been a period consistent with evolving neuronal death.
 

friedpie

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Since none of us sat on the jury I will have to accept the jury's opinion over anyone else's. I think it's a little arrogant for people to second guess the jury who sat through 3-4 months of testimony day in an day out while the rest of us only caught highlites on Court TV once in a while.


 

BaliBabyDoc

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It's very easy to 2nd guess the jury. After sitting through 4 months of testimony, they went into deliberations with only 6 convinced of his guilt. It's the responsibility of the prosecution to convince a jury of guilt NOT the other jury members. One juror was a nurse and used his knowledge (limited of course) to convince the stragglers that the blood on the scene could not have happened through a fall and that the injuries were inconsistent with a fall. This juror was providing "expert" testimony that could not be refuted by the defense. When the jurors requested part of the prosecutions testimony (claims to mechanism of injury) to be made available the prosecution declined.

Peterson probably killed his wife but probably doesn't it cut it in a murder case. Curiously, NC law does not require a motive or a murder weapon . . . according to one of the jurors.
 
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Originally posted by: friedpie
Since none of us sat on the jury I will have to accept the jury's opinion over anyone else's. I think it's a little arrogant for people to second guess the jury who sat through 3-4 months of testimony day in an day out while the rest of us only caught highlites on Court TV once in a while.

It's not arrogant at all, local coverage was very thourough on this case. The entire trial was broadcast in addition to all the news program coverage. Thousands of other people saw everything the jury did. And basically, the jury convicted the man on nothing more than being at the scene of what was either an accident or a murder.