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Michael Moores letter to the President
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yes the GOP is clearly the party of common sense, take the sanctity of life, thats a pretty easy position to take, unfortunately they are all for POST birht abortions, they call it the death penalty, how ironic that Texas has killed more poeple than any other mass murderer in US history...
Cerb
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Jahawken, it isn't the message, it's him being immature and impatient in his attempt to tell it. By slanting and editing things out of context, and, as shown in the letter, using red herrings, straw men, personal attacks, appeal to beliefs and ridicule, and poisoning the well--that I could see.
If he would make an argumentative letter like any middle school graduate should be able to (i would say high school graduate, but while I may be in college, I'm not even that, so no point in assuming he should be held to a higher standard than I should, eh?), I'd treat him with respect, like I do Bill Maher (I may hate what he believes in in many cases, but I'm not going to attack him, because he usually makes sound arguments).
But to argue life is SACRED on one hand them advocate the death penalty on the other is a sure sign you don't even believe your first "conviction"
You spew right wing rhetoric and state that common sense is simple is repsonse to my contention the GOP is simplistic in it's positions, you were the one implying party affiliation with THAT statement, your bias enforces your connection. You missed my point however on the GOP,
when I say simple think, SIMPLEminded, not easy to understand with inherently evident truth the basis for tyheir position.
The connection occurswhen your are anti-abortion and base your arguement on the sanctity of human life, yet also support the death penalty, I'm not saying don't punish criminals to the point of incaretaing murderers until they persih in prison, but if you want to take the moral ground that ALL life is equally relevant, maintain that [position whoever you are talking about.
Okay so whats the point? I can make an extremely broad statement take an extreme nutjob to prove something and make a connection. Watch. Why do the Democrats believe that ALL life is equally relevant, but doesn't mind having a nation of people brutally opressed? They should stop trying to take the moral high ground.
See how thats such a stupid and shallow statement?
I don't see how the average pro-death penalty/pro-life person is pretending to be on a moral high ground and I don't believe they are only associated w/ the GOP.
Most people don't mind taking the life of a guilty murderer, but do have a problem taking the life of an innocent child.
And note the definition of murder.
The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
So the death penalty is NOT murder.
So please, don't make such a stupid argument like that calling all GOP supporting people hypocrites. You can prove the same for either political party with such cheap statements.
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Okay so whats the point? I can make an extremely broad statement take an extreme nutjob to prove something and make a connection. Watch. Why do the Democrats believe that ALL life is equally relevant, but doesn't mind having a nation of people brutally opressed? They should stop trying to take the moral high ground.
See how thats such a stupid and shallow statement?
I don't see how the average pro-death penalty/pro-life person is pretending to be on a moral high ground and I don't believe they are only associated w/ the GOP.
Most people don't mind taking the life of a guilty murderer, but do have a problem taking the life of an innocent child.
And note the definition of murder.
The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
So the death penalty is NOT murder.
So please, don't make such a stupid argument like that calling all GOP supporting people hypocrites. You can prove the same for either political party with such cheap statements.
Ok then please tell me the name of this country the democarats actively opursue legislation and have in their party platform that clearly states they support this oppression. Sorry but your analogy wasn't even a real anaology, lol. The GOP clearly is anti-abortion, anyone would agree this is the partys position, even themselves. Their basis is the sanctity of life. Your response dodges this direct conflict in supposed beliefs.
EITHER YOU BELIVE LIFE IS SACRED OR YOU DON'T, THE IDEA THAT YOU FEEL MAN WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISON IN ANY INSTANCE IS PROOF THAT LIFE IS NOT "SACRED".... In their opinion, CERTAIN life is sacred, there is the probelm. YOu can't kill him because ALL life is sacred, but we can kill you...???
This is hardly a nutbag jump in logic, it's based on the simple premise that most pro-lifers agree with, ALL LIFE IS SACRED< EVEN THE UNBORN.
All of Moore's points are 100% valid.
If you try and argue against them, then you are as ignorant as the next middle american slob.
If you try and argue against them, then you are as ignorant as the next middle american slob.
Conjur, Ive read many of your posts in this thread. I don't care to aruge against them, they dont merit any responses at all.
It's people like you, who thinks its OUR moral obligation to police the world, that get us into messes.
People are dieing EVERYWHERE, so why don't we just run to everyones rescue and help them?
Oh, right, because there isn't ANYTHING IN IT for US.
I don't like Micheal Moore that much at all, but I like GWB even less.
In total, Moore is infinatly more credible than GWB.
It's people like you, who thinks its OUR moral obligation to police the world, that get us into messes.
People are dieing EVERYWHERE, so why don't we just run to everyones rescue and help them?
Oh, right, because there isn't ANYTHING IN IT for US.
I don't like Micheal Moore that much at all, but I like GWB even less.
In total, Moore is infinatly more credible than GWB.
You lack the capability to attack the message, and not the person.
Since when do you judge someones reasoning abilities on their ability to correct grammar on the internet.
Apparantly you have that amazing ability to do that.
Standard conservative crap.
This link is the synopsis of me vs. you.
I have been over this arguement 203948239024 times.
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