Michael Moore is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!

[Moonbeam]

There were a couple of ways they did 67 county recounts, using original claimed recounts and actual recounts. You gotta look into it to see.

Just a sample.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There were a couple of ways they did 67 county recounts, using original claimed recounts and actual recounts. You gotta look into it to see.

Just a sample.

thats not contrary to what i posted either...

 

[Moonbeam]

"What's new is the finding that, since voters are supposed to decide elections rather than lawyers or judges, the state's electoral votes appear to have gone to the wrong candidate. Given that the outcome in Florida determined the national victor, this is not just news but a critical challenge to the legitimacy of the presidency."
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That is not what you posted.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"What's new is the finding that, since voters are supposed to decide elections rather than lawyers or judges, the state's electoral votes appear to have gone to the wrong candidate. Given that the outcome in Florida determined the national victor, this is not just news but a critical challenge to the legitimacy of the presidency."
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That is not what you posted.

thats not contrary to this

[But Gore might have eked out a win if a complete state recount of both undervotes and overvotes had been carried out, the review concluded

 

[dugweb]

A consortium of news outlets - including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Tribune Co. (Newsday's parent company), The Wall Street Journal, Associated Press and CNN - spent nearly a year and $900,000 reexamining every disputed ballot.

thats to bad... they shoulda just given me the $900,000

 

[Spicedaddy]

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

A consortium of news outlets - including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Tribune Co. (Newsday's parent company), The Wall Street Journal, Associated Press and CNN - spent nearly a year and $900,000 reexamining every disputed ballot.

thats to bad... they shoulda just given me the $900,000

You sure? That's a lot of votes to count...

 

[Moonbeam]

ELFenix, you have to understand that you are argung with somebody who doesn't seem to see words normally. You said Gore, but I read Bush. Sorry. At least it got JudistPriest to loose a bon mot.

 

[NesuD]

Michael Moore is nothing more than a low life opportunist. That opinion was formed after experiencing 20+ years of his blatherings. Fact of the matter is even the people from his hometown think he is full of crap.

 

[dugweb]

Originally posted by: Spicedaddy

Originally posted by: JudistPriest

A consortium of news outlets - including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Tribune Co. (Newsday's parent company), The Wall Street Journal, Associated Press and CNN - spent nearly a year and $900,000 reexamining every disputed ballot.

thats to bad... they shoulda just given me the $900,000

You sure? That's a lot of votes to count...

i wouldnt count the votes, i meant they should give me the money because what would it change regardless of the results? nothin

 

[Moonbeam]

Yeah, but they're still in the home town and he's getting an oscar.

 

[Cerb]

Maybe you should watch more documentaries. A film doesn't have to be objective or purport to be objective, and it can still be called a documentary.

Nothing is objective outside of mathematics. It should at least be based on complete facts, though, which it is not.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: minus1972
I actually just lost a little bit of respect for them there.

More like lost a lot. He like Saddam and dictatorship rule so much he should go and live there, then he will never be heard from again but will apparently be very happy.

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: minus1972
I actually just lost a little bit of respect for them there.

More like lost a lot. He like Saddam and dictatorship rule so much he should go and live there, then he will never be heard from again but will apparently be very happy.

That seems to be the only response you have for people expressing 'unpopular' viewpoints on the subject. You're smart.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
ELFenix, you have to understand that you are argung with somebody who doesn't seem to see words normally. You said Gore, but I read Bush. Sorry. At least it got JudistPriest to loose a bon mot.

breakin' the law, breakin' the law

 

[TheShiz]

I think its great that someone actually has the balls to get up in front of the academy awards and say something like that, even if I don't agree with him. It shows that thankfully this country is going in the right direction; no one would dare do that before or during any other war. It draws more and more people in to political discussion, and I mean political discussion that actually matters, unlike most of the crap that goes on in congress. The United States foreign policy history of the past half century is not a pretty thing, and I bet most of you on this board really don't know hardly anything about it. You may know the so called victories, but most likely you are unaware of the smorgasbord of atrocities committed and influenced by the United States of America. Hopefully more will learn of the repressed history. Humanity depends on it.

 

[LeStEr]

Originally posted by: novon
That took guts, my hat off to him

Yup. I myself am a Michael Moore fan.

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: Dudd

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Codewiz
"FICTICOUS ELECTION RESULTS"

DUMBASS. He really has no idea what this country is about.......

No idea? It seems to me he's got the 'freedom of speech' part down pat.

Yeah he can say whatever the hell he wants but he is DEAD WRONG. Bush was elected fair and square......

...by the Supreme Court 😱

or by the Electoral College as set by the US Constitution, take your pick. I believe the NYTimes did a recount of every ballot, and Bush still came out a winner.

Yeah but when u keep alot of citizen from voting in the first place (strangely in a state where the brother is governor) then something is wrong not to mention the counting od absentee ballots of ppl that voted after the deadline and so on. Read about it in Stupid white men and if u dont believe M.Moore then go read the sources from where this info is from

The point is not that Bush wasnt elected by the electoral college- which he was, but that the election had irregularities in Florida and therefore wasnt fair. Anyway elections with irregularities have to be repeated otherwise u are no better than a random Banana republic

But this aint my business it aint my country - it's just an opinion

 

[AznMaverick]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Fvck him!

Nice to hear the boos too!

agreed.

 

[Pliablemoose]

He has every right to say what he did, no matter how wrong I felt it was, working within the framework of our freedoms & getting the opposing viewpoint out there is what makes our country great.

I disagree with the determination that BFC was a documentary, Moore plays fast & loose with to many facts & spins them to his POV.

I would really have preferred to have seen him take on corporate entities, as he did with GM, rather than him becoming yet another political hack, I'd be as personally offended if Rush Limbaugh won an award for his right wing spinning...

The audience expressed their rights by booing the tool. Our Republic/constitution @ work, impressive stuff.

 

[deftron]

Video of acceptance speech 2MB


Audio of post-show press conference 5MB

I have video of the press conference but it's 25MB

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I don't know how accurate the documentary was, but he sure got the part about Bush now winning the election right. The million dollar major newspapers recount of the Florida vote showed Bush won in all kinds of counts but lost in the count that would have mattered if the Supreme coup hadn't stopped the election so Gore couldn't win. Gore, of course, just like the exit polls showed, won the majority legal votes state wide. So effectively, the Supreme Coup elected Bush 5 to 4 in a completely partisan vote. By so doing they put a mind of very limited capacity in office which now pursues an illegal and immoral war of American Imperialism and thereby also disgraced the Court's purported independence and objectivity on which it depends for proper functioning. The court is populated by nothing but a bunch of political hacks. Bush is a disaster. We are already paying dearly for this sin against the People.

oh my god....it is like a broken record

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: TheShiz
I think its great that someone actually has the balls to get up in front of the academy awards and say something like that, even if I don't agree with him. It shows that thankfully this country is going in the right direction; no one would dare do that before or during any other war. It draws more and more people in to political discussion, and I mean political discussion that actually matters, unlike most of the crap that goes on in congress. The United States foreign policy history of the past half century is not a pretty thing, and I bet most of you on this board really don't know hardly anything about it. You may know the so called victories, but most likely you are unaware of the smorgasbord of atrocities committed and influenced by the United States of America. Hopefully more will learn of the repressed history. Humanity depends on it.

It doesn't take balls it is called self preservation, he did it as a publicity stunt to help boost his name, even bad press is good press.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
He has every right to say what he did, no matter how wrong I felt it was, working within the framework of our freedoms & getting the opposing viewpoint out there is what makes our country great.

I disagree with the determination that BFC was a documentary, Moore plays fast & loose with to many facts & spins them to his POV.

I would really have preferred to have seen him take on corporate entities, as he did with GM, rather than him becoming yet another political hack, I'd be as personally offended if Rush Limbaugh won an award for his right wing spinning...

The audience expressed their rights by booing the tool. Our Republic/constitution @ work, impressive stuff.

Actually he doesn't, the Academy specifically asked people attending to refrain from any comments about the war...he ignored that plain and simple.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: NesuD
Michael Moore is nothing more than a low life opportunist. That opinion was formed after experiencing 20+ years of his blatherings. Fact of the matter is even the people from his hometown think he is full of crap.

How is that possible, when his first film was made only 14 years ago?

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: deftron
Video of acceptance speech 2MB


Audio of post-show press conference 5MB

I have video of the press conference but it's 25MB

Just listened to that postshow clip. What a moron. How much crap can one spew from their mouth in 12 minutes, maybe not as bad as saddams little speech, but close.

KK