Michael Jackson overdosed

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: xj0hnx

At about 1:30 a.m., Murray gave Jackson 10 mg of Valium. At about 2 a.m., he injected Jackson with 2 mg of the anti-anxiety drug Ativan. At about 3 a.m., Murray then administered 2 mg of the sedative Versed. At about 5 a.m., Murray administered another 2 mg of Ativan. At about 7:30 a.m., Murray gave Jackson yet another 2 mg of Versed.


"Jackson finally went to sleep and Murray stated that he remained monitoring him. After approximately 10 minutes, Murray stated he left Jackson's side to go to the restroom and relieve himself. Murray stated he was out of the room for about 2 minutes maximum. Upon his return, Murray noticed that Jackson was no longer breathing."

Something is the fishy here. If MJ was on a regiment of pain killers and "sleep aids" those amounts wouldn't really do anything to him, and only being gone two minutes? CPR is your friend, he's trying to say as a doctor he couldn't do CPR and bring him back? I've recessed herion OD's that were out longer.

I think the coroner's report lists him as having died from an overdose of propofol though. That stuff is apparently pretty bad news. My wife was telling me that our local hospital refuses to stock the stuff or allow its use because it's so dangerous. The difference between life and death is too narrow.

 

[trenchfoot]

I guess if the Doc had to resort to a drug that dangerous, it means everything below it's potency wasn't working any more. That is really, really bad/sad addiction-wise. Or maybe he was stuck in an escalating upper-downer yo-yo.

RIP MJ, it's over now.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: extra

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: blackangst1
deadly drug like propofol

Because it's not normally deadly, only when people are being retards?

I don't get why people are saying this zomg scary drug (that isn't even scheduled is it? the abuse potential is pretty low lol) no one has ever heard of killed him...

You know, maybe it was a mix of that + 3 benzos + god knows what else.

Valium could be deadly too, but calling it a "deadly drug" is just fear mongering.

Rule number 1=mixing depressants is very very dangerous.

That's how the famous people die...when you hear of someone dying of a oxycontin overdose or something....it wasn't usually oxycontin. It was usually oxycontin+a valium they took a couple hours ago that they thought wore off..plus a glass of wine...etc.

Wow. Serious quote problem. I didnt say that line lol

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

I think the coroner's report lists him as having died from an overdose of propofol though. That stuff is apparently pretty bad news. My wife was telling me that our local hospital refuses to stock the stuff or allow its use because it's so dangerous. The difference between life and death is too narrow.

Actually, it's used every day thousands of time and in combination with the drugs MJ was given, (except Ativan (lorazepan)-rarely used because of it's long half life & lengthy clinical effect(s) ) the good doctor is lying about the amount of drugs MJ was given, and if he was anywhere near responsible, he would have been working with another person & been ready to provide an advanced airway in case MJ went into respiratory arrest. The amounts the doctor admits to would have worked on someone not abusing these drugs, MJ was likely given much larger doses.

I've only heard of one other propofol related death, and it was an Anesthesiologist using it on himself.

The elimination half-life of propofol has been estimated to be between 2 and 24 hours. However, its duration of clinical effect is much shorter, because propofol is rapidly distributed into peripheral tissues. When used for IV sedation, propofol typically wears off in minutes. Propofol is versatile; the drug can be given for short or prolonged sedation as well as for general anesthesia. Its use is not associated with nausea as is often seen with opioid medications. These characteristics of rapid onset and recovery along with its amnestic effects[14] have led to its widespread use for sedation and anesthesia.

A side effect MJ likely enjoyed was the erotic euphoria many people get:

It has been reported that the euphoria caused by propofol is unlike other sedation agents, "I even remember my first experience using propofol: a young woman who was emerging from a MAC anesthesia looked at me as though I were a masked Brad Pitt and told me that she felt simply wonderful" ?C.F. Ward, M.D.[18]

Propofol has reportedly induced priapism in some individuals.

I've heard quite a few people comment that they experience this after they've had a procedure.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: extra

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: blackangst1
deadly drug like propofol

Because it's not normally deadly, only when people are being retards?

I don't get why people are saying this zomg scary drug (that isn't even scheduled is it? the abuse potential is pretty low lol) no one has ever heard of killed him...

You know, maybe it was a mix of that + 3 benzos + god knows what else.

Valium could be deadly too, but calling it a "deadly drug" is just fear mongering.

Rule number 1=mixing depressants is very very dangerous.

That's how the famous people die...when you hear of someone dying of a oxycontin overdose or something....it wasn't usually oxycontin. It was usually oxycontin+a valium they took a couple hours ago that they thought wore off..plus a glass of wine...etc.

Wow. Serious quote problem. I didnt say that line lol

According to documents obtained by the LA Times, lethal levels of Propofol were found in Jackson's blood. This is a powerful drug that is usually used with extreme caution in critical care settings such as intensive care units, surgical or medical procedures. This type of medication is usually only handled by critical care doctors or anesthesiologists. If this medication is given as an outpatient, it would be a highly unusual practice and a very dangerous one. This drug may result in respiratory depression, pulmonary edema, hypotension or cardiac arrest even in controlled settings.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: extra

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: blackangst1
deadly drug like propofol

Because it's not normally deadly, only when people are being retards?

I don't get why people are saying this zomg scary drug (that isn't even scheduled is it? the abuse potential is pretty low lol) no one has ever heard of killed him...

You know, maybe it was a mix of that + 3 benzos + god knows what else.

Valium could be deadly too, but calling it a "deadly drug" is just fear mongering.

Rule number 1=mixing depressants is very very dangerous.

That's how the famous people die...when you hear of someone dying of a oxycontin overdose or something....it wasn't usually oxycontin. It was usually oxycontin+a valium they took a couple hours ago that they thought wore off..plus a glass of wine...etc.

Wow. Serious quote problem. I didnt say that line lol

According to documents obtained by the LA Times, lethal levels of Propofol were found in Jackson's blood. This is a powerful drug that is usually <<used with extreme caution in critical care settings such as intensive care units, surgical or medical procedures. This type of medication is usually only handled by critical care doctors or anesthesiologists. If this medication is given as an outpatient, it would be a highly unusual practice and a very dangerous one. This drug may result in respiratory depression, pulmonary edema, hypotension or cardiac arrest even in controlled settings.

Right. But I was pointing out the fact you quoted me on something I never said