Michael Jackson has a Heart Attack at 50

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Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: BigJelly
one less child molester...
good riddance

if that makes me cold hearted so be it, but any day a child molester dies is a good day

i thought this at first... but then... i kinda felt pity for michael jackson. that dude was crazy as fuck and thought he was like 10 years old. i dunno...

That would be awesome if he actually lived in never never land all by himself but he didn't.

And here i'll repeat something paraphrased from what you once said, "we all have to live with eachother so sanity is needed among citisens".

It's a paraphrase, i don't know what thread it was but i do remember you saying it and that it would be a damn good sig for someone. ;)
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: eits
sudden cardiac arrest... not a heart attack.

and what would cause sudden cardiac arrest... while at home alone... at 50?

training/working out preparing for the up-coming concert series?
And he wasn't even obese, inm fact almost to skinny (actually he was too skinny) All you fatties out there, beware.

he had no previous heart problems, from what i heard.

a sudden signal interference/surge to his heart from his brain could have caused it, getting hit in the chest at exactly the right time to cause his heart to skip the wrong way could have caused it, poison could have caused it, od of drugs could have caused it, etc...

a lot of people are asking for a tox screen on him to find out

Are you a chiropractor? First thing to look for would be direct cause, blood lipids, estracellular activity, second would be family history.

And no, a "sudden signal interference" will only cause a stutter, if it didn't then every living human being would be dead before the first reproduced.

I don't know what shool you go to but go the fuck back to grad school.

yeah, i am.

apparently, his heart was perfectly healthy and he didn't have a significant family history. he just had a physical and was in good health.

yeah, most of the time, a sudden interference would be regulated, but sometimes, it doesn't.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7411862&page=1
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05...oung-life-is-lost.html
etc.

i'll go back to "grad school" when you learn a little bit more about how the body works or whenever you go fuck yourself... whichever comes first. until then, leave the nerve stuff to me and i'll leave the douchebagginess to you.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: spittledip
I really don't think much of MJ and don't think he was a great song writer.. but I still don't think he was a child molester. I really don't care too much either b/c he is dead. That's between him and God now.

That is your perogative, but someone who pays off people not to go to court and then invites young children over by themselves AGAIN and get's into the SAME kind of trouble is either a pedophile or so stupid that his brain was implanted on his glutes so he could sit on an idea for a while.

Sure, if it had only been the second one, but it wasn't, was it?

Most of all, why are we even having a discussion about this, a nobody is dead, who the fuck cares?
 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: spittledip
I really don't think much of MJ and don't think he was a great song writer.. but I still don't think he was a child molester. I really don't care too much either b/c he is dead. That's between him and God now.

That is your perogative, but someone who pays off people not to go to court and then invites young children over by themselves AGAIN and get's into the SAME kind of trouble is either a pedophile or so stupid that his brain was implanted on his glutes so he could sit on an idea for a while.

Sure, if it had only been the second one, but it wasn't, was it?

Most of all, why are we even having a discussion about this, a nobody is dead, who the fuck cares?

Probably b/c he is a figure that elicits all types of emotional responses from people. You seem to be pretty mad about him yourself :laugh:
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: eits
sudden cardiac arrest... not a heart attack.

and what would cause sudden cardiac arrest... while at home alone... at 50?

training/working out preparing for the up-coming concert series?
And he wasn't even obese, inm fact almost to skinny (actually he was too skinny) All you fatties out there, beware.

he had no previous heart problems, from what i heard.

a sudden signal interference/surge to his heart from his brain could have caused it, getting hit in the chest at exactly the right time to cause his heart to skip the wrong way could have caused it, poison could have caused it, od of drugs could have caused it, etc...

a lot of people are asking for a tox screen on him to find out

Are you a chiropractor? First thing to look for would be direct cause, blood lipids, estracellular activity, second would be family history.

And no, a "sudden signal interference" will only cause a stutter, if it didn't then every living human being would be dead before the first reproduced.

I don't know what shool you go to but go the fuck back to grad school.

yeah, i am.

apparently, his heart was perfectly healthy and he didn't have a significant family history. he just had a physical and was in good health.

yeah, most of the time, a sudden interference would be regulated, but sometimes, it doesn't.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7411862&page=1
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05...oung-life-is-lost.html
etc.

i'll go back to "grad school" when you learn a little bit more about how the body works or whenever you go fuck yourself... whichever comes first. until then, leave the nerve stuff to me and i'll leave the douchebagginess to you.

If you are going to cite articles then i will expect that they are based on peer reviewed studies, if not, don't bother, opinion pieces and editorials isn't something i'd consider valuable.

I am sorry that i was a bit harsh but the truth is the truth and i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that i am correct.

I could probably produce articles from opinion pieces or editorials that claim that people with no cerebral activity beyond random impulses sometimes are not brain dead (in fact, i know i can) but none of them would have any scientific bearing since they, like your articles, do not portray the truth.

Abcnews, wasn't that the channel that thought that ecdysterone was dianabol?
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
T'was the vitiligo, his body started hating itself.

my understanding is that vitiligo is linked to heart disease mainly by stress and depression. vitiligo tends to cause stress and depression, which leads to heart disease. is there a link between sudden death and vitiligo?

You do realise that vitiligo is something you are born with and that after puberty the lack of pigmentation never grows and it only affect certain areas?

He never had vitiligo, he went from mostly black to mostly white within a matter of weeks.

Neither you nor me can say why he died as neither you nor i have access to the evidence or any report regarding his demise so let's leave it at that, shall we?

I don't have a problem with you, just that one post, and i would like it to stay that way. :)

yeah, i know what vitiligo is. thanks.

according to his doctors, mj had vitiligo. from what i remember, he bleached the rest of his skin just so it didn't look so conspicuous. whether that's the truth or not, i dunno. all i know is that you made a post claiming it was the vitiligo that did him in and i wasn't aware that sudden death was associated with vitiligo, just introversion, depression, etc.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: spittledip
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: spittledip
I really don't think much of MJ and don't think he was a great song writer.. but I still don't think he was a child molester. I really don't care too much either b/c he is dead. That's between him and God now.

That is your perogative, but someone who pays off people not to go to court and then invites young children over by themselves AGAIN and get's into the SAME kind of trouble is either a pedophile or so stupid that his brain was implanted on his glutes so he could sit on an idea for a while.

Sure, if it had only been the second one, but it wasn't, was it?

Most of all, why are we even having a discussion about this, a nobody is dead, who the fuck cares?

Probably b/c he is a figure that elicits all types of emotional responses from people. You seem to be pretty mad about him yourself :laugh:

Actually, i don't give a fuck about him but i do give a fuck about the killed ISAF forces and NATO forces which aren't even mentioned anymore.

Who cares about them though, a bleeched pedophile is dead, lets mourn.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
T'was the vitiligo, his body started hating itself.

my understanding is that vitiligo is linked to heart disease mainly by stress and depression. vitiligo tends to cause stress and depression, which leads to heart disease. is there a link between sudden death and vitiligo?

You do realise that vitiligo is something you are born with and that after puberty the lack of pigmentation never grows and it only affect certain areas?

He never had vitiligo, he went from mostly black to mostly white within a matter of weeks.

Neither you nor me can say why he died as neither you nor i have access to the evidence or any report regarding his demise so let's leave it at that, shall we?

I don't have a problem with you, just that one post, and i would like it to stay that way. :)

yeah, i know what vitiligo is. thanks.

according to his doctors, mj had vitiligo. from what i remember, he bleached the rest of his skin just so it didn't look so conspicuous. whether that's the truth or not, i dunno. all i know is that you made a post claiming it was the vitiligo that did him in and i wasn't aware that sudden death was associated with vitiligo, just introversion, depression, etc.

Did you even read what i wrote? It would have been just as noticeable throughout and after puberty.

So if running around in a tank top doesn't show it off it isn't there or maybe he had a bald white spot on his balls, ask the kids who visited him.

He did not have vitiligo, and OBVIOUSLY anyone with an appearance problem will get anxious, introversed and depressed, that's psychology, not physiology.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: eits
sudden cardiac arrest... not a heart attack.

and what would cause sudden cardiac arrest... while at home alone... at 50?

training/working out preparing for the up-coming concert series?
And he wasn't even obese, inm fact almost to skinny (actually he was too skinny) All you fatties out there, beware.

he had no previous heart problems, from what i heard.

a sudden signal interference/surge to his heart from his brain could have caused it, getting hit in the chest at exactly the right time to cause his heart to skip the wrong way could have caused it, poison could have caused it, od of drugs could have caused it, etc...

a lot of people are asking for a tox screen on him to find out

Are you a chiropractor? First thing to look for would be direct cause, blood lipids, estracellular activity, second would be family history.

And no, a "sudden signal interference" will only cause a stutter, if it didn't then every living human being would be dead before the first reproduced.

I don't know what shool you go to but go the fuck back to grad school.

yeah, i am.

apparently, his heart was perfectly healthy and he didn't have a significant family history. he just had a physical and was in good health.

yeah, most of the time, a sudden interference would be regulated, but sometimes, it doesn't.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7411862&page=1
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05...oung-life-is-lost.html
etc.

i'll go back to "grad school" when you learn a little bit more about how the body works or whenever you go fuck yourself... whichever comes first. until then, leave the nerve stuff to me and i'll leave the douchebagginess to you.

If you are going to cite articles then i will expect that they are based on peer reviewed studies, if not, don't bother, opinion pieces and editorials isn't something i'd consider valuable.

I am sorry that i was a bit harsh but the truth is the truth and i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that i am correct.

I could probably produce articles from opinion pieces or editorials that claim that people with no cerebral activity beyond random impulses sometimes are not brain dead (in fact, i know i can) but none of them would have any scientific bearing since they, like your articles, do not portray the truth.

Abcnews, wasn't that the channel that thought that ecdysterone was dianabol?

they're not opinion pieces. they're stories in which the heart stopped due to a perfectly timed arrhythmia. you should at least read the important parts of the article (skim until you find it) before you simply dismiss them.

asking for studies is a bit silly, considering how there's no way to ethically conduct this kind of study with any kind of certainty other than simply understanding neurology. how do you think defibrillators work to get normal/manageable rhythm?

apology accepted, and i'm not doubting that you're right about health and family history being far more significant than random hindsight diff dx just by knowing how he died. i was merely replying to someone who asked how someone could have a sudden cardiac arrest... just giving a few different scenarios.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
T'was the vitiligo, his body started hating itself.

my understanding is that vitiligo is linked to heart disease mainly by stress and depression. vitiligo tends to cause stress and depression, which leads to heart disease. is there a link between sudden death and vitiligo?

You do realise that vitiligo is something you are born with and that after puberty the lack of pigmentation never grows and it only affect certain areas?

He never had vitiligo, he went from mostly black to mostly white within a matter of weeks.

Neither you nor me can say why he died as neither you nor i have access to the evidence or any report regarding his demise so let's leave it at that, shall we?

I don't have a problem with you, just that one post, and i would like it to stay that way. :)

yeah, i know what vitiligo is. thanks.

according to his doctors, mj had vitiligo. from what i remember, he bleached the rest of his skin just so it didn't look so conspicuous. whether that's the truth or not, i dunno. all i know is that you made a post claiming it was the vitiligo that did him in and i wasn't aware that sudden death was associated with vitiligo, just introversion, depression, etc.

Did you even read what i wrote? It would have been just as noticeable throughout and after puberty.

So if running around in a tank top doesn't show it off it isn't there or maybe he had a bald white spot on his balls, ask the kids who visited him.

He did not have vitiligo, and OBVIOUSLY anyone with an appearance problem will get anxious, introversed and depressed, that's psychology, not physiology.

well, yeah... i know. that's what i was saying.

AAARGH, ok... you're talking in circles.

you said "twas the vitiligo that did his heart in"... i said "afaik vitiligo isn't associated with sudden death... just depression, etc. depression and stress could lead to heart disease, though... but i don't know of any link between vitiligo and heart disease." <--- psychology, not physiology... i never claimed it to be physiological... you did by saying that vitiligo did his heart in.
 

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: BigJelly
one less child molester...
good riddance

if that makes me cold hearted so be it, but any day a child molester dies is a good day

:thumbsup:
God I hope you guys never end up on a jury. With "peers" like you it's better to just go right to the gas chamber.
 
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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: BigJelly
one less child molester...
good riddance

if that makes me cold hearted so be it, but any day a child molester dies is a good day

:thumbsup:
God I hope you guys never end up on a jury. With "peers" like you it's better to just go right to the gas chamber.

As I stated, my opinion is based on the court of public opinion. Believe me, I know the importance and how to apply criminal standards.

<------------ criminal defense attorney (so I'll never see the light of day of a jury anyway).
 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Most of all, why are we even having a discussion about this, a nobody is dead, who the fuck cares?
Shens. You can't be posting if you're dead.
 

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RIP Mike

Hope you found peace man

ON a weird note. I have like 4000 songs in my Car stereo Via USB stick and I started it up and Michael was playing. I don't have a playlist with his songs......
 

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A brilliant musician that changed the music scene for decades to come and led a pretty tragic life
 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: BigJelly
one less child molester...
good riddance

if that makes me cold hearted so be it, but any day a child molester dies is a good day

he was acquitted by a jury. the whole case against him was bullshit brought on by a money hungry bitch along with the quack psychologist she was in league with.

Ya, ONE case that came AFTER the initial case where he paid off the parents.

And there were more to come.

"hi i'm insane, i've been accused of pedophilia and paid my way out of it, please give me more kids"?

Seriously, dumb bitch? Michael was a fucking retard for settling if he didn't do it.

My recollection is there was one extortion attempt after another(He's extremely wealthy). Most of the extortion attempts had nothing to do with child molestation.

People see a man with a funny nose and freakishly pale skin and they join the crowd with the mob mentality. There's a lot of bias and a lot of BS.
 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Most of all, why are we even having a discussion about this, a nobody is dead, who the fuck cares?
He's such a big "nobody" that you've already posted 15 times in this thread.
 

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
A brilliant musician that changed the music scene for decades to come and led a pretty tragic life

Yes, a true musical legend. RIP Michael.

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I'll miss him. I'm doubtful that he would have put out any more music to rival his past phenomenal releases, but I still think that the loss of this weirdo recluse at a "young" age of 50 is a loss to pop culture. He was a source of many lulz.

I hope that his family finds some solace in their good memories of him, and his exceptional career. Particularly, I hope that his children are well taken-care of by the wealth Jacko didn't squander on exotic albino ponies, dragons, and carnival rides.

Also, JoS, stop drinking. <3<3<3 ;)
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Most of all, why are we even having a discussion about this, a nobody is dead, who the fuck cares?
He's such a big "nobody" that you've already posted 15 times in this thread.

How many times are you going to quote this?

I understand he was a celebrity, but the amount of news coverage was a bit over the top.
 

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At 12 pm today The Louisiana Legislature will proceed in a slow majestic moon walk down the Capital Rotunda in honor of The Great M. Jackson .