Michael Jackson child Molestation Trial thread: 11-22 Jackson Accuser Revealed

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dmcowen674

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I didn't give this it's own thread because suicide is such a lame statement although you do only get to make it once.

Also because it illustrates many of the problems of child stars not doing well into adulthood.

11-21-2003 Jonathan Brandis commits suicide

Brandis was best known for his portrayal of crewmember Lucas Wolenczek on two seasons of Steven Spielberg's underwater sci-fi series, SeaQuest DSV, which catapulted him to teen-idol status.

Born April 13, 1976 in Danbury, Connecticut, Brandis got his start at age six, when he landed a recurring role on the soap One Life to Live and appeared in numerous commercials. He moved to Los Angeles with his family at age nine, and made guest appearances on shows such as Murder She Wrote and Who's the Boss?

Brandis earned his first starring film role in 1990's The Neverending Story II: The Next Chapter. He went on to appear in 1992's Ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield and more recently in the Farrelly brother's Outside Providence in 1999.

Brandis reportedly left no suicide note. He was an only child, who is survived by his parents, Greg and Mary Brandis.










 

dmcowen674

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Thanks to a posting in Off Topic and Journalists in Australia have revealed the close accuser:

11-22-2003 Jackson Accuser Revealed

Earlier this year, Arvizo appeared in a controversial British documentary, Living With Michael Jackson, referring to Jackson as "Daddy" and admitting he shared the singer's bed.

A day after Jackson surrendered to Californian police, US newspapers said the boy alleged he was plied with alcohol and sleeping pills before being molested by the entertainer.

It also emerged yesterday that police who raided the 1050ha estate on Wednesday targeted several hidden rooms reputedly located off Jackson's bedroom. A documentary, made in 1994 but never aired, includes interviews with alleged victims of Jackson who claimed there was a small ante-room that could be accessed through his wardrobe.

It was also reported the ante-room included a narrow staircase that led to a windowless children's bedroom, where the bed had Peter Pan sheets.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
I will only say that children ought not be anywhere near parents who for what ever reason are not fit to raise their kids. The grandparents should step in and sort out the situation or if there is a proper mother about then her.. and, the issue should have been visited when he dangled his child off the balcony!


I play areoplane with mine. Grap one in each hand holding arms parallel to sholders and spin around in circles... they love it. Oh well guess I better not be caught on tape.
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digitalsm

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Originally posted by: tallest1
Do you realize that the allegation was made on the same day a CD of his was released?? It might've been just a coincidence but thats just low.

I think the accuser is taking advantage of the situation since most people don't believe a word Jackson says.

The allegation was made well before the day his CD was to come out. The DA and Sheriff departments, just happened to get search and arrest warrants issued on that day. Alot of stuff has to happen before that.
 

Cypherdude1

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Oh yeah, the prosecutor is tracking Jackson's career and actually cares about his CD's. I don't know why you would even state that, since hardly anyone in the USA actually buys his music anymore. :D I don't think it's so hard to believe Michael Jackson is a child molester since other children have already accused him and he seems to prefer children for company. :Q
Originally posted by: tallest1
Do you realize that the allegation was made on the same day a CD of his was released?? It might've been just a coincidence but thats just low.

I think the accuser is taking advantage of the situation since most people don't believe a word Jackson says.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: LunarRay
I will only say that children ought not be anywhere near parents who for what ever reason are not fit to raise their kids. The grandparents should step in and sort out the situation or if there is a proper mother about then her.. and, the issue should have been visited when he dangled his child off the balcony!


I play areoplane with mine. Grap one in each hand holding arms parallel to sholders and spin around in circles... they love it. Oh well guess I better not be caught on tape.
rolleye.gif

I did the same.. but, the issue could have been visited using the balcony event as the cause. I personally have no problem with Jackson if he is just a child himself. But, I'm a bit dubious due to his settlement of a reported 20m. When one has a bit of history then it is important to insure that he is harmless.. no probable cause no intrusion.. I don't say this for just Jackson.. cuz he may be a fine fellow... but, settlements give me the heebie jeebies..

 

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Jackson is allowed to leave the state as long as he relinquishes his passport. There was another child molester, in 1978, who did flee to France. Roman Polanski, director of the "Chinatown" and "Rosemary's Baby" movies, actually plead guilty. After pleading guilty and awaiting the penalty phase of the trial, he fled to France. Polanski had sex with a thirteen (13) year old girl. Polanski did the same thing as what Jackson allegedly did. Polanski gave the girl drugs and alcohol to accomplish the deed. Polanski was never extradited to the USA because France does not extradite statutory rape cases. In fact, because of his contacts in Hollywood, he has done extremely well in France. Just this year, Polanski won an Oscar for his film "The Pianist". Because Polanski is a convicted child rapist, he was unable to enter the USA to collect his Oscar. Harrison Ford flew to France and personally presented it to him! :|

I guess Polanski is too big a Hollywood figure to end up in Prison. He is well connected, well financed, and is too famous. While making "The Pianist", Polanski visited Poland to find shooting sites. If the US Federal government truly wanted to capture him, they would have caught him while he was in Poland and extradited him from there. This is completely disgusting! All I can say to the Hollywood crowd and the Oscar organization is SHAME. For SHAME!!! Just because a movie is about the Holocaust doesn't mean you should give a child molester an Oscar!
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Jackson arrested - Mugshot posted

Hey, why is he allowed to go back to Las Vegas? Shouldn't he not be allowed to leave the State?
 

daniel1113

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I never knew Polanski was a convicted child molestor/rapist. I used to really like The Pianist, but now I'm not sure if I could watch it without thinking about the director. I wouldn't have bought the DVD if I had known where the money was going. The studio that distributes the movie should be required to put stickers on the DVDs that say "Made by a convicted rapist that fled to France." Argh...
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: LunarRay
I will only say that children ought not be anywhere near parents who for what ever reason are not fit to raise their kids. The grandparents should step in and sort out the situation or if there is a proper mother about then her.. and, the issue should have been visited when he dangled his child off the balcony!


I play areoplane with mine. Grap one in each hand holding arms parallel to sholders and spin around in circles... they love it. Oh well guess I better not be caught on tape.
rolleye.gif

I did the same.. but, the issue could have been visited using the balcony event as the cause. I personally have no problem with Jackson if he is just a child himself. But, I'm a bit dubious due to his settlement of a reported 20m. When one has a bit of history then it is important to insure that he is harmless.. no probable cause no intrusion.. I don't say this for just Jackson.. cuz he may be a fine fellow... but, settlements give me the heebie jeebies..

I'm so anti-pop culture i had'nt heard of this until you pointed it out:) (a cave is nice) Perhaps I see the gist of what you're saying now..that balcony was no joke..but settling usually means guilt with his armada of lawyers..:( You'd think as rich as he is with children always comming and some even sleeping over he'd have camerma in every square inch to free himself from liabiliy..weird.
 

LunarRay

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Zebo,
I'm so anti-pop culture i had'nt heard of this until you pointed it out (a cave is nice) Perhaps I see the gist of what you're saying now..that balcony was no joke..but settling usually means guilt with his armada of lawyers.. You'd think as rich as he is with children always comming and some even sleeping over he'd have camerma in every square inch to free himself from liabiliy..weird.

I think there are all kinds of folks and most are as innocent as angels who seek only to make someone's life happy.. Maybe Mr Jackson is one of these. Maybe not.. I don't know but, I think when kids are involved with folks who have some history of similar issues a look see ought to occur.. Many of the parents seem to trust him while some have their kids saying something happened.. at this point whether true or false and until it is shown to be innocent, all kids need being proctected from him and those other people who have had similar ascertions made against them. I know this sounds like Guilty until proved Innocent.. maybe that has some truth to it, I guess. I don't mean that full blown criminal charges should be filed but at least protect the children.. no one else will or haven't. I don't advocate invasion of privacy into the home of families based on flimsy reasons.. I'd hate to see the kid police invading everyone's home because Dad yelled at Johnnie.. A balance...
The balcony thing would have given me the opportunity to look see a bit closer is what I mean.. besides a bit risky for the child.. it showed a bit of disregard for the child... if Jackson had been stung by a bee would he have kept hold of the child? Maybe ...
 

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For all the doubters and everyone saying they're bringing these suits against him just for the money you should check this article.

All I have to say is "WOW".

If that article is true... Jacko's in A LOT of trouble.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored
For all the doubters and everyone saying they're bringing these suits against him just for the money you should check this article.

All I have to say is "WOW".

If that article is true... Jacko's in A LOT of trouble.

A source close to district attorney Tom Sneddon, who will prosecute the case, said: "The DA is very confident with the evidence he has. This includes letters, videos and computer files. They believe they have enough to nail Jackson."

Jackson's legal team is said to be encouraging him to consider a plea bargain, possibly an insanity defence that would allow him to serve time in a state mental hospital instead of jail.

There was speculation yesterday that the singer raised his $3 million bail with the help of Miami-based Al Malnik, a lawyer for notorious gangster Meyer Lansky, who died in 1983.

Malnik reportedly began making large loans to Jackson when his career nosedived.

Malnik, 69, was cited by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1980 and 1992 as a person of unsuitable character.

The prosecution source said: "It just gets weirder and weirder. Michael supposedly has financial problems, but hiring someone with Mob connections is bizarre."

Prosecutors are said to be spreading a net around the world for other alleged victims. One boy of special interest is said to be in El Salvador, another in South Africa.

They are also said to be considering quizzing the son of an English premiership footballer.

Charges of aiding and abetting are likely to be filed against members of Jackson's entourage.