Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: zinfamous
This morning started with an ILM meeting for five hours in San Francisco. Currently I'm flying with writer Ehren Kruger to Rhode Island to talk to Hasbro about new characters.
and this is why these movies are beyond terribad. pow-wow with special effects crew and toy company before a script is even conceived.
These movies were made from a 1980s cartoon that was based off of toys. Hasbro owns the distribution rights for the toys as well as all related intellectual property. So yes, Hasbro is going to be in on the early discussions; without Hasbro, there would be no Transformers.
not to mention it's purely an action movie. script maters less than the visual prowess. Sorry to all that think otherwise, but Bay does not intent to make award winning drama scripts, unless that script can include a glorious amount of insane action.
He's an action director, and getting special effects worked on is important.
Also, their story board process is entirely animated, so special effects crew and ILM are more important in the early stages. 😛
I enjoy Bay's movies for what he brings to the table - visceral action movies with great camera work that increases the feeling of intensity. He knows how to deliver in that department, and to say otherwise is to say you don't enjoy explosion filled action movies. 😛 Popcorn action flicks are different from the drama action flicks.
The Transformers movies feature amazing photography direction and excellent coordination for insane effects. He has tricks for camera work that you don't see elsewhere. I love the go-kart camera he uses for the movies in some scenes.
To watch Transformers for story is ridiculous. I enjoy the story the way it is presented, and don't really look for particularly deep character acting, and for that reason Megan Fox is perfect eye candy to compliment the action. The movies are easy to sit down and simply have a lot of fun watching, i.e. the perfect "popcorn action flick".
See X-Men 2, or Spiderman 2 for a decent popcorn action flick with a coherent story. Bay makes shit movies. They are so absurd all I can do is shake my head most of the time.
I don't expect Oscar-worthy material, but something that makes sense and at least attempts to have some interesting, non-CGI driven elements rather than just flinging poo at the screen and hoping it sticks.
KT