Mich. ban on race in college admissions illegal

[CPA]

What is merit? How do you define it?

Are you telling me that you think a poor black kid from the inner city who's mother was a junkie and never met his father and had a brother killed in a drive by but worked hard and studied and went to school everyday despite attending an innercity school that was run down and had ancient lab equipment to work with and didn't offer many higher level courses but still gave it his all and was able to scrape by and earn an SAT score that was just 50 points lower than a suburban child born in a two parent household where the mother didn't have to work and was able to spend plenty of quality time with him, all while sending him to numerous summer camps for fun and education, hire tutors to help assist with homework and have the best equipment around and top notch classes that earned dual credit for college while at their nice private school and was able to swing 50 more points on his SATs than the black kid; really doesn't merit the opportunity to get accepted to a school?

Is that solely based on merit to you?

Yes, because suburbia is so perfect. Give it a rest, life isn't fair. More white people are on welfare than black, so shouldn't we give more low income white people preferential treatment?

 

[davmat787]

What is the answer then? It is no statistical anomaly when you are dealing with millions of people and the median income is so much lower. Why is it lower?

In this country, we enslaved blacks for centuries. We legally declared them to be less of a person (3/5ths). When they were freed we continued with Jim Crow laws for another hundred years. You can't have all that happen then just flip a switch in the 60s and say we are all even.

The problem is much bigger, deeper and more ingrained into the fabric of our society than Tyrone from down the block getting paid less per hour for the same job as Kevin. Systemic issues have created a society in which blacks do not have the same opportunities as everyone else. It isn't overt racism, it is just lingering remnants from hundreds of years of state sponsored oppression that we haven't gotten out of our collective system.

Considering the race of our President, what opportunities would you be referring to?

 

[shortylickens]

Considering the race of our President, what opportunities would you be referring to?

Obama is probably the whitest black guy I have ever seen. He didnt have to put up with any of the bullshit the rest of American blacks have. He really never had any true roadblocks to a successful career.

Having said that, affirmative action and welfare and other free handouts doesnt seem to be doing ANYTHING to actually improve the black community. Free handouts dont make people strong, they make them weaker.
As a matter of fact I think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson believe the same thing.

 

[Hacp]

Affirmative action is stupid. Just like in any business, no excuses. I don't care if you learned how to read at age 15 and got 1 point lower than the cuttoff. If there are no standards, you'll fail.