Mice on a mutha****in' plane!!!

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NFS4

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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http://www.nbc5i.com/news/9510175/detail.html
FORT WORTH, Texas -- An American Airlines employee said he was so concerned about mice infesting an aircraft that he shot hidden camera footage after he said enough wasn't done to solve the potentially dangerous problem.

American Airlines confirmed that the plane was infested with mice, but defended how it handled the problem.

KSHB-TV, the NBC affiliate in Kansas City, obtained the hidden-camera video of a Boeing 767 undergoing maintenance at an American Airlines facility in Missouri.

The video shows the interior and exterior of the aircraft where the mice were found.

"We had to take the chairs off, and that's when everybody saw mice running around on the floor, and one ran down one of the mechanics' arm," the anonymous employee said.

The worker said they found nests in the air vents, dead mice in the emergency oxygen masks and droppings along the edge of the whole aircraft.

Denny Kelly, an aviation expert, said it's a serious safety issue.

"You know, you take a rodent like that, it could be either a mouse or a rat, and they get inside the airplane someplace where there's electrical wiring and chew through it, it could be very serious. It could be catastrophic," said Kelly.

But the "whistleblower" said the plane flew repeatedly from New York to Los Angeles, even after the airline knew of the mice problem.

American Airlines acknowledged that mechanics later found the mice had chewed through wiring for the public address system.

"When you fly 100 hours and not take care of the problem, you are putting the people traveling in danger," said the anonymous employee.

American Airlines spokesman John Hotard said in a statement that the plane was always safe to fly and said the airline did try several times to trap the mice. Hotard said workers ultimately found 17 mice on the plane.

The spokesman did acknowledge that that rats could have become a safety issue.

"At some point those mice could have chewed through some electrical wiring," Hotard's statement said.

American Airlines said mice do turn up from time to time on planes, and that the airline sets traps -- just like you would in your home.

On Wednesday night, the plane in question was back in the air after undergoing extensive maintenance. And the American Airlines spokesman said he's confident it's now "mouse-free."
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SVT Cobra

Lifer
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I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
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imported_LoKe

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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Not a big deal. Airplanes can survive a lot of crap, and I'm pretty sure a mouse would sooner electrocute itself.
 
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xanis

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Sep 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: Manuwell
After snakes, mice !

WTF is next ?
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You could just use the snakes to get rid of the mice, then everyone wins!
 
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SVT Cobra

Lifer
Mar 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: LoKe
Not a big deal. Airplanes can survive a lot of crap, and I'm pretty sure a mouse would sooner electrocute itself.
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Uhhh...
In a video report you can watch here, the tipster tells KSDK that 900 to 1,000 mice may have been onboard.
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http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/mice_on_a_plane.html

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Sorry that has to be exaggeration, there is no way 900+ mice could be on a plane without passengers raising a huge stink, let alone the pilots and other workers who are near the plane. Even if they were not in the passenger compartment, the luggage and such would be damaged.
 
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ruffilb

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Still, would you get on a plane infested with 1k mice?
 
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imported_LoKe

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: ruffilb
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Still, would you get on a plane infested with 1k mice?
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Padding when it goes down.
 
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BooGiMaN

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Jul 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
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what good will hydaulics do you when none of your sensors or gauges work?

would you like to be on a plane flying at night with no sensors giving the pilot crucial feedback about the planes conditon, headings etc.
 
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SVT Cobra

Lifer
Mar 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
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what good will hydaulics do you when none of your sensors or gauges work?

would you like to be on a plane flying at night with no sensors giving the pilot crucial feedback about the planes conditon, headings etc.
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I wouldn't care, all pilots can fly without instrumentation, and in fact is not that hard. Unlike the movies, as long as you have control of the plane you are good to go.

And, even If MFD data goes out, important gauges still have analog backups.

<<<Studied to be a pilot at 16. :)
 
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imported_LoKe

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
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what good will hydaulics do you when none of your sensors or gauges work?

would you like to be on a plane flying at night with no sensors giving the pilot crucial feedback about the planes conditon, headings etc.
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I wouldn't care, all pilots can fly without instrumentation, and in fact is not that hard. Unlike the movies, as long as you have control of the plane you are good to go.

And, even If MFD data goes out, important gauges still have analog backups.

<<<Studied to be a pilot at 16. :)
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In addition to that, you've got a little bit of help from ground control. =]
 
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Dunbar

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My dad found a dead cat in the engine compartment of his Miata many years ago. Local gas station refused to touch it regardless of price.
 
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Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I doubt mice chewing through wires could to catostrophic, as there are backup systems. I don't know too much about the 767, but most is still hydrolics I believe, not fly by wire. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Business class attendant: "our special today is rat puree"

:D
 
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