Mexico lashes out against Chinese quarantine

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BEIJING ? Mexican officials angry about China's decision to quarantine more than 70 Mexicans over swine flu fears sent a plane Monday to the communist country to bring its citizens back home. China sent its own plane to retrieve Chinese nationals stranded in Mexico. Mexican President Felipe Calderon complained of a backlash against Mexicans abroad, and sent the chartered plane on Monday morning to fly to several cities and pick up Mexicans who wanted to leave China. In one case, the Mexican ambassador said, a family with three small children were rousted from their hotel before dawn and taken to a hospital. "I think it's unfair that because we have been honest and transparent with the world some countries and places are taking repressive and discriminatory measures because of ignorance and disinformation," Calderon said. China's Foreign Ministry denied Mexicans were singled out. Late Monday, China sent a chartered flight to Mexico City to pick up 200 stranded Chinese nationals, the official Xinhua News Agency reported. The flight was expected to return Wednesday morning, the report said. The Chinese Foreign Ministry added that it hoped Mexico would "address the issue in an objective and calm manner." China had earlier canceled the only direct flights between China and Mexico, a twice weekly service by Aeromexico. "This is purely a question of health inspection and quarantine," ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said in a statement. A group of 29 Canadian university students and a professor also have been quarantined at a hotel in China since the weekend over swine flu fears. Canada has 140 confirmed cases of swine flu. The group does not have any flu symptoms, University of Montreal spokeswoman Sophie Langlois said Monday. China had quarantined 71 Mexicans at hospitals and hotels, Mexico's Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinoza said. None of the travelers in isolation has swine flu symptoms and most had no contact with infected people or places, Mexico's ambassador, Jorge Guajardo. None of those in isolation had symptoms and most had no contact with infected persons or places, he said. In Hong Kong, 274 people remained isolated in a hotel Monday after a Mexican traveler there was determined to have swine flu. The Hong Kong government originally said 350 people were in the hotel but revised the figure Monday. Mexico also criticized Argentina, Peru and Cuba for banning flights. Argentina sent a chartered plan to Mexico to collect Argentines wanting to return home, and set up a field hospital at its airport in Buenos Aires to handle incoming passengers with symptoms. World Health Organization flu chief Keiji Fukuda said quarantines were a "long-established principle" that makes sense in the early phases of an outbreak, but not once a full pandemic is under way. "As we get later on into Phase 6 (the highest pandemic alert level) then these sorts of measures will become less useful because there will just be more infections around and you can't quarantine everyone in the world," he said. China's authoritarian government doesn't stand on niceties when shifting into crisis mode, locking down much of the country during last summer's Beijing Olympics and sealing off Tibetan areas following anti-government protests last year. Its responses can often be extreme, shifting from neglectful to over-the-top. During the 2003 outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, officials went from denying they had a problem to shutting down much of the country and quarantining scores of people virtually overnight.

Should we (The US)be expecting enough planes for 12 million people?
 

MotF Bane

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Mexico needs to shut the fuck up. This is called quarantine, it's a wise precaution.

 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Mexico needs to shut the fuck up. This is called quarantine, it's a wise precaution.

Actually, it's is somewhat futile at this point. Unless you want to entirely isolate a nation from the rest of the world.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Mexico needs to shut the fuck up. This is called quarantine, it's a wise precaution.

it woudl be a wise precaution if swine flu was actually a threat
 

Schadenfroh

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Hong Kong's population has had run ins with SARS and far worse flavors of the Flu, I can understand the paranoia.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Mexico needs to shut the fuck up. This is called quarantine, it's a wise precaution.

Actually, it's is somewhat futile at this point. Unless you want to entirely isolate a nation from the rest of the world.

Works for me. Any precaution to keep the Mexican Flu from becoming pandemic...


oh wait, this was about the swine flu? meh...I thought it was about the illegal immigrants :p

IMO, China would have had a major fit had the rest of the world quarantined their countrymen over SARS/Bird Flu a couple of years back...
 

Vic

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If swine flu is remembered years or decades from now, it will be as a grand media hoax of an otherwise ordinary flu strain.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Hacp
China's doing what we're afraid to do.

It's not fear, it's the bureaucratic quagmire inherent to free democracies that prevents irrational knee-jerking by govt authorities.
 

microbial

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China is not well know for their white-glove treatment of their own population...so, no big surprise here.

Ironically, in the healthcare community it is becoming the consensus that it was quite fortunate that the flu epicenter occurred in Mexico. Their rather draconian containment decisions and massive information campaign has been instrumental in stabilizing the situation.

The combination of their limited virology lab capabilities and the still mystery high mortality in the first days of onset-triggered an over-response that likely would not have been similar in 1st world countries. Certainly not here in the US.

In this regard Mexico deserves a great deal of praise for doing the unpopular thing.
 

Riceninja

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its just mexico. what are they gonna do, write a strongly worded letter to the chinese government?
 

Pepsei

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China Quarantines Four Americans: "The American Embassy in Beijing says four U.S. citizens are now or have been quarantined in China due to swine flu fears. Embassy spokeswoman Susan Stevenson said Tuesday two of the Americans were in Beijing while the other pair were in the southern province of Guangdong." She told the Associated Press that two of the Americans have since been released from quarantine.


well, it's better to be safe than sorry?
 

rudder

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China will sure miss that 10,000 pesos the Mexicans spend in China every year.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: rudder
China will sure miss that 10,000 pesos the Mexicans spend in China every year.

No, they won't. Mexico will buy from us, and we'll buy from China. The only difference being those pesos turned into dollars.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: rudder
China will sure miss that 10,000 pesos the Mexicans spend in China every year.

10,000 pesos? What does that buy? One piece of lead-flavored bubble-gum?
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: rudder
China will sure miss that 10,000 pesos the Mexicans spend in China every year.

No, they won't. Mexico will buy from us, and we'll buy from China. The only difference being those pesos turned into dollars.

You mean there is a difference these days?
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Mexico needs to shut the fuck up. This is called quarantine, it's a wise precaution.

it woudl be a wise precaution if swine flu was actually a threat

With the population density in some areas of China, I think it had the potential to be much worse over there than it was here in the United States.