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Mexico is insane...

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Hate to break it to everyone but now that Mexican truckers can/will shortly have permission to drive anywhere in the US illegal immigration is probably going to increase dramatically, smuggling FTW.

i was going to start a thread about that. its going to be the death of american trucking.
 
Originally posted by: halik
Anyone find it ironic that mexico is angry about construction workers immigrating illegally 10meters into their country...

Especially since it's probably the construction worker's home soil anyway.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

Yeah, no problem. Lets all get out our wallets and help pay for the medical & education etc expenses.

Maybe we should just put all our money into boxes and ship it down to Central & South America. It's not fair that they too geographicaly disadvantaged to benefit from our largess in supporting citizens of other countries. We all know that there are none here that need any help.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

No, they're taking over the country without firing a single shot...it's an UN-armed invasion and occupation...
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

No, they're taking over the country without firing a single shot...it's an UN-armed invasion and occupation...

They come across empty handed then they buy their guns after they get here.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

Yeah, no problem. Lets all get out our wallets and help pay for the medical & education etc expenses.

Maybe we should just put all our money into boxes and ship it down to Central & South America. It's not fair that they too geographicaly disadvantaged to benefit from our largess in supporting citizens of other countries. We all know that there are none here that need any help.

Fern

Come on Fern, a slippery slope from you? I am saddened. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Hate to break it to everyone but now that Mexican truckers can/will shortly have permission to drive anywhere in the US illegal immigration is probably going to increase dramatically, smuggling FTW.

Thought that was already basically true. NAFTA has been in place for a while... one of the things I damn Clinton for signing off on. Bush hasn't helped the matter though.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

No, they're taking over the country without firing a single shot...it's an UN-armed invasion and occupation...

Really? Cause so far I see them living in pretty squalid housing and maybe cutting the grass at my apartment complex or working on a farm somewhere. If their plan is to "take over the country", they're doing a pretty crummy job.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

Yeah, no problem. Lets all get out our wallets and help pay for the medical & education etc expenses.

Maybe we should just put all our money into boxes and ship it down to Central & South America. It's not fair that they too geographicaly disadvantaged to benefit from our largess in supporting citizens of other countries. We all know that there are none here that need any help.

Fern

Come on Fern, a slippery slope from you? I am saddened. 🙂

That was exactly my point. Obviously it's a problem at some level, but the absolutely insane intensity of the response to the problem seems pretty disproportionate to the "threat".
 
Mexican politicians are making a fuss because it is now domestically good policy there to support illegal aliens. Aliens after all send millions (billions?) back to Mexico each year.

Small border incursions among non warring states happen like this somewhat regularly. A few months ago there was an "uproar" among the Minutemen types when some Mexican Federales or some-such drove several hundred feet/yards into the US to do something. I forget exactly what they were doing but I'm pretty sure they weren't apprehending border crossers. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: OrByte
the sky is falling!! arrghh!!!

Seriously...what the hell is wrong with you people? It's illegal immigration, not an armed invasion and occupation. Get a grip!

Yeah, no problem. Lets all get out our wallets and help pay for the medical & education etc expenses.

Maybe we should just put all our money into boxes and ship it down to Central & South America. It's not fair that they too geographicaly disadvantaged to benefit from our largess in supporting citizens of other countries. We all know that there are none here that need any help.

Fern

Come on Fern, a slippery slope from you? I am saddened. 🙂

That was exactly my point. Obviously it's a problem at some level, but the absolutely insane intensity of the response to the problem seems pretty disproportionate to the "threat".

To OrByte: Hmmmm... Your slippery slope comment puzzled me for a while. But I think I see why you say that. Mostly, this issue frustrates me. The hubris and comments from the Mexican government about our immigration policy (especially considering their own) anger me. My comments about shipping our money down to the lower countries who don't share our borders was mostly sarcasm borne of frustration.

To Rainsford: The border affects me like the ole Chinese Water torture thingy. It's one frickin drop after another. What you call a disproportionate response is the culmination of so many drops. As a person who has emigrated to other countries (and foreign born wife emigrated here) I dont feel it's as hard a problem to solve as many try to make out. Control of one's own borders is a very fundamental responsibility of a government. I'm disapointed and angry at our government on so many aspects & levels on this issue I generally can't bear to watch TV news on this subject. At least here I can post & vent a bit.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So the US shouldn't care if Canada decides to reclaim 10 meters across the entire US/Canadian border?

According to CNN the workers themselves crossed the border, not the fence. This is a stupid overreaction on Mexico's part. They are crying because a few people actually walked across the imaginary line, and came back, completely ignoring the fact that they are bleeding people across said line.
 
The borders are open to the free flow of goods and raw materials but are not open to the free flow of people. That's just not fair. Period.
 
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