Mexico Ganging Up With Obama Administration Against Arizona Law

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drebo

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You're right. The law needs to go after white business owners who hire and exploit Mexicans by not paying them true market wages, all in the name of padding their bottom line. I agree with you, a two pronged approach like this is needed to get rid of the illegal immigrants.

"True market wages". Who decides what "true market wages" are? Doesn't the LABOR MARKET decide that? As in, laborers are willing to work for this much, thus deciding what is the "true market wage".

Minimum wage is NOT the "true market wage". It's an anti-protectionist, inflation-causing tax on the poor. The $2/hr that workers are actually willing to work for is the "true market wage".
 

OutHouse

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"Mexican officials previously had voiced opposition to the Arizona law, with Calderon saying June 8 that the law "opens a Pandora's box of the worst abuses in the history of humanity" by promoting racial profiling and potentially leading to an authoritarian society"

worst abuses in the history of humanity? WTF WTF WTF!!!! my God this has gone to a whole new level of stupid.
 

waggy

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Arizona should sue the feds for not enforcing the border per the constitution!

and that is what i think (and hope) the outcome of the feds suing Arizona over this. The Goverment is not doing its job with the boarder and hopefully the lawsuit brings out the true facts.
 

Triumph

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"True market wages". Who decides what "true market wages" are? Doesn't the LABOR MARKET decide that? As in, laborers are willing to work for this much, thus deciding what is the "true market wage".

Minimum wage is NOT the "true market wage". It's an anti-protectionist, inflation-causing tax on the poor. The $2/hr that workers are actually willing to work for is the "true market wage".

When the owners get to pay people under the table, and those people don't have to pay taxes on their pay like the rest of us, then that is not a true market wage.
 

spittledip

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Who cares what Mexico thinks about Arizona law? They have enough problems of their own to deal with.
 

drebo

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When the owners get to pay people under the table, and those people don't have to pay taxes on their pay like the rest of us, then that is not a true market wage.

If the workers are willing to work for it, then it is.

If the workers want more, they can ask for more and the employers can consider giving it. It's called negotiation, and the labor market will find its own equillibrium dependent upon what is amiable to both employee and employer.

Tax evasion is a different issue and both employees and employers should be fined, deported, or jailed for such.
 

Triumph

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If the workers are willing to work for it, then it is.

If the workers want more, they can ask for more and the employers can consider giving it. It's called negotiation, and the labor market will find its own equillibrium dependent upon what is amiable to both employee and employer.

Tax evasion is a different issue and both employees and employers should be fined, deported, or jailed for such.

So you agree that the tax evasion gives the illegals an unfair advantage in getting jobs, and yet you still think that the wages that they are paid are the "true market value"? Tax evasion is NOT a different issue, it's all one in the same when determining what wages these people are willing to accept.
 

rudder

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Until the U.S. Government grows some balls and takes back over the 3,500 acres of U.S. soil occupied by a foreign terrorist army... this lawsuit will have no merit.