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Mexican Drug Cartels in your town?

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How big is the town? Whoever is selling mexican brick weed and the harder stuff there probably just gets it from the closest metro area. Of course, if you're out in the boonies, there's probably a lot of locally grown MJ.

it has right under 100 people IN town. No Hispanics live in town. ONLY 1 Hispanic family on one of the farms around me though. Only thing i know about them is they make a mean taco (they have a little booth when we do the community garage sale) and are very nice polite people.
 
i present to you, the results of the 'war on drugs'

so much loss of money and life resulting from the anti-drug laws, its tragic. meanwhile people are still doing drugs all the time. not a single redeeming factor to this 'war'.

well, if i was in the drugs business, or the anti-drugs business, i'd probably find it quite lucrative...until i had a very bad day.
 
He's the current President in case you hadn't noticed. He's also the one now targeting medical marijuana and covering up for Holder.

I'm not defending Obama's current status or administration. He didn't start the war on drugs and he hasn't done anything to finish it, like many before him. That was my point. Hope that cleared it up for you.
 

That was directed at people that think cartel influence cannot exist in their town. The part of the map I live in, has zero cartels, but their product still exists and is sold; therefore, my area(and his) supports the cartels.
 
That was directed at people that think cartel influence cannot exist in their town. The part of the map I live in, has zero cartels, but their product still exists and is sold; therefore, my area(and his) supports the cartels.

Thank asinine drug laws for that.
 
Stopping marijuana is an absolute waste of time. Still trying to figure out how blow is worse than alcohol. I've blacked out and done stupid shit way more on legal drinking than any other substance.
 
This is certainly true to some extent. After all, millions upon millions get intoxicated legally on alcohol daily, and a certain percentage of those are habitual drunks, all of which has an impact on society. The prohibition era proved only one thing, that criminalizing intoxicants does not lead to considerably less intoxication, it just moves it underground and fuels black markets. Following this logic, black markets have to operate under organization, and will profit greatly from these actions. Hence, you create an environment for common criminals to become very powerful and wealthy, and a great drive towards protecting their little empires. Caustically, it also creates larger and less democratic police and judicial actions as a reactive process, which harms freedoms significantly. These processes in our judicial and police systems are accumulative in nature, so that even if the problems lessened (in the prohibition example; liquor traffickers), the increased tax burden and intrusion upon freedoms will not collaterally lessen.

In summary, the criminalization of intoxicants has proven ineffective in actually stopping the intake of these substances, and primarily serves very negative results at multiple levels. Ignoring the question of morality (after all, none of us are profoundly authoritative on what is truly good or evil), our actions have harmed society at large, to the benefit of a select few. Returning to the original reason for this response, you are quite correct in observing that someone choosing that kind of lifestyle quite often does do great harm to themselves, and even others on occassion. My preferred solution is not the path of criminalization, but federalization and transitioning the approach to a question of health care. After all, if we send an addict to prison and ruin his life with a felony/etc for possession, we are almost certainly going to create an actual motivated criminal who may transition to theft or assault after going through criminal school 101, vs. the path of rehabilitation options, counter-agent medications (which make it impossible to achieve a "high"), as well as pathways to job training and/or faith-based programs.

Are these solutions perfect? Hardly. I maintain that they remain far more appealing than wasting countless billions of dollars for decade after decade down a path that has only produced destruction and lined the pockets of the corrupt.

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This is certainly true to some extent. After all, millions upon millions get intoxicated legally on alcohol daily, and a certain percentage of those are habitual drunks, all of which has an impact on society. The prohibition era proved only one thing, that criminalizing intoxicants does not lead to considerably less intoxication, it just moves it underground and fuels black markets. Following this logic, black markets have to operate under organization, and will profit greatly from these actions. Hence, you create an environment for common criminals to become very powerful and wealthy, and a great drive towards protecting their little empires. Caustically, it also creates larger and less democratic police and judicial actions as a reactive process, which harms freedoms significantly. These processes in our judicial and police systems are accumulative in nature, so that even if the problems lessened (in the prohibition example; liquor traffickers), the increased tax burden and intrusion upon freedoms will not collaterally lessen.

In summary, the criminalization of intoxicants has proven ineffective in actually stopping the intake of these substances, and primarily serves very negative results at multiple levels. Ignoring the question of morality (after all, none of us are profoundly authoritative on what is truly good or evil), our actions have harmed society at large, to the benefit of a select few. Returning to the original reason for this response, you are quite correct in observing that someone choosing that kind of lifestyle quite often does do great harm to themselves, and even others on occassion. My preferred solution is not the path of criminalization, but federalization and transitioning the approach to a question of health care. After all, if we send an addict to prison and ruin his life with a felony/etc for possession, we are almost certainly going to create an actual motivated criminal who may transition to theft or assault after going through criminal school 101, vs. the path of rehabilitation options, counter-agent medications (which make it impossible to achieve a "high"), as well as pathways to job training and/or faith-based programs.

Are these solutions perfect? Hardly. I maintain that they remain far more appealing than wasting countless billions of dollars for decade after decade down a path that has only produced destruction and lined the pockets of the corrupt.

wow. best post I've read on ATOT in a while.
 
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