Metro2033 my analysis

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Texashiker

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Dec 18, 2010
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I haven't played this game myself since it sounded like it's main claim to fame is the graphics, but when I looked at trailers for it it didn't look that impressive.

To me, the story plot is good,,, kinda reminds me of half-life. Metro2003 is a linear game. You just follow the path and take whatever is thrown at you.

The movement is one of my biggest complaints. When moving around, the character just seems "jerky", its not as smooth as say the unreal engine or source engine.
 

andrei3333

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Jan 31, 2008
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^ yep, i agree with that, i also find that sometimes in close quarters, where there are lots of humans around at a station, the character moves too fast, so i end up pressing and depressing the forward button a lot, which adds to the jerkiness.

Almost wish you could hold ALT + forward to walk slower as you can in another game i tried, cant remember the name
 

VulgarDisplay

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Apr 3, 2009
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I thought the graphics sucked, the animations were horrible, and the voice acting was the worst I have ever witnessed. I am glad I only spent 5 bucks on a sale.
 

KaOTiK

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I thought the graphics sucked

Are you playing with onboard graphics? There are a lot of things people can say about Metro, but the graphics sucking is not one of thing, it was one of the best looking games to come out last year.
 

VulgarDisplay

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Apr 3, 2009
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Are you playing with onboard graphics? There are a lot of things people can say about Metro, but the graphics sucking is not one of thing, it was one of the best looking games to come out last year.

i5 750 3.8ghz and a amd 5870. The graphics were decent in the environments, but the character models were horrendous. So ugly I couldn't even look at them.
 

motsm

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Jan 20, 2010
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i5 750 3.8ghz and a amd 5870. The graphics were decent in the environments, but the character models were horrendous. So ugly I couldn't even look at them.
So what game does have acceptable character models? It seems to me, if Metro's are so bad you can't even begin to look at them, you must not be able to play all but two or three of the games ever made throughout the entire history of gaming.

In other words, you are just exaggerating to such a degree that it makes you look like an ass.
 

NoSoup4You

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Feb 12, 2007
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The animations were pretty average at best, that might be what he's referring to. The worst part about this game for me was the enemy ai, especially on human characters.

But the game has a lot of atmosphere if you're the type of person that appreciates that in an FPS.
 

dust

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Oct 13, 2008
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What a steaming pile of crap this game is. Very dark, hard to see anywhere, the lead guy keeps walking off and muttering something and you are left with trying to figure out what to do. Scores of monsters rush you where you can unload an entire clip into one and it wont die and while you are reloading, 3-4 of the others maul you to bits.

Graphics are nice, but they try too hard. The whole experience is a big fat "D" in my book due to gameplay, creatures, and overall experience.

I'd be pissed if I spent $5.00 on this game, let alone "normal" prices that you can find it for on Steam or otherwise. I've given it a solid 3-4 hours so far and just can't stand it anymore.

You've got to be kidding!

Sounds like your aim sucks a lot and you choose poorly the weapons for various encounters, that's the problem. The ratpeople literally drop from a single well aimed shot from the double barreled shotty, once you find your automatic it's just a walk in the park, even on the hardest difficulty. If you wander enough you'll find night vision and the you'll be looking for dark spots instead of hating them so.

And the point about the graphics, wtf is that? I suppose it's a lot better for you if the development remains zero in the matter.

You should go back to Serious Sam or whatever run&gun you're comfortable to play.

Also regarding the ammo trading-to whoever brought the point, the game offers enough ammo without buying anything. I use the traders to sell the extra ammo(for the guns I don't use) and get better weapons. If you reach the battle between reds and nazis without a silenced, scoped VLA you did something wrong.
 

toyota

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
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"I'd be pissed if I spent $5.00 on this game, let alone "normal" prices that you can find it for on Steam or otherwise"

so does that mean you pirated the game?

to me the muted gun sounds, idiotic AI, and inconsistent damage the enemies would take just flat out ruined the game. nice graphics and atmosphere will never make up for not getting the basics right.
 
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VulgarDisplay

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Apr 3, 2009
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So what game does have acceptable character models? It seems to me, if Metro's are so bad you can't even begin to look at them, you must not be able to play all but two or three of the games ever made throughout the entire history of gaming.

In other words, you are just exaggerating to such a degree that it makes you look like an ass.

Speaking of looking like an ass. Did you know that opinions are like assholes? Everyone has one and they all stink. The game is bad. That is my opinion. No need to get all e-thug over your love for a game.

People playing metro2033 see all the detail put into the faces of the characters that they get distracted and don't notice the horrendous stick figures that have nothing even closely resembling normal human proportions attached to them. Then those characters start moving and the horrible animations make the horrible character models look even worse. Then they got some guy that can barely speak about 30 words a minute to do the voice over. First time he started talking I was ready to uninstall the game.

If you ask me bad company 2 was miles ahead of metro 2033 graphically. People got wowed by unrealistic lighting effects in metro 2033, while I just found them jarring and ugly.
 

motsm

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Jan 20, 2010
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Speaking of looking like an ass. Did you know that opinions are like assholes? Everyone has one and they all stink. The game is bad. That is my opinion. No need to get all e-thug over your love for a game.
I don't love the game, I don't even like the game... at all. I also don't think the people in the game look great either, but your massive exaggeration just sounded so melodramatic, I had to give you my opinion that you sounded like a total ass.

You make it sound like the character models are of similar ilk to Thief: The Dark Project and just plugged into a shiny new game engine.
 

Liet

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Jun 9, 2001
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Meh, I thought it was fantastic, and kept hoping for MORE. Far too short, and needed more item/map/enemy complexity.

Overall, excellent game and if I knew then what I know now... I'd still buy it and enjoy it.
 
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OP should buy a console, as PC games that require more than "spray 'n pray" seems to be to hard for him...


What is the purpose of insulting someone that is simply posting their opinions of a game. I know a fair number of people that are intelligent and good players that play on consoles and also play on the PC. Personally, I prefer to play on the PC, but if all the people that play on consoles are incompetent and stupid, then that is most of the population.

And you can "spray and pray" on a PC too you know.
 
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Lonbjerg

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Dec 6, 2009
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What is the purpose of insulting someone that is simply posting their opinions of a game. I know a fair number of people that are intelligent and good players that play on consoles and also play on the PC. Personally, I prefer to play on the PC, but if all the people that play on consoles are incompetent and stupid, then that is most of the population.

And you can "spray and pray" on a PC too you know.


Because OP complantis that the game is to hard...and yes, the majority of the population cannot become a Mensa member...there are more stupid people than bright people, get over it.
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Because OP complantis that the game is to hard...and yes, the majority of the population cannot become a Mensa member...there are more stupid people than bright people, get over it.

It is too hard for how fun its supposed to be. hard =/ fun.

And it is just not enjoyable to play. hard, plus not fun makes it a crappy game.

Games should be enjoyable and this just simply isnt. As a whole, I love this genre of game, but just not this one.
 

toyota

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
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Frontline was horribly frustrating. I kept wasting ammo with the rifle but the pistol could take out people from a distance better? wtf? I also unloaded the shotgun at point blank and they sometimes would get right back up as if nothing happened. I finally just ran through everybody after numerous attempts at playing it the right way. I have no idea how I did not die doing that but I never want to play that part of the game again. and I still dont see why more people dont bitch about the muted gun sounds as it completely ruins the shooting.
 

Lonbjerg

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Dec 6, 2009
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It is too hard for how fun its supposed to be. hard =/ fun.

And it is just not enjoyable to play. hard, plus not fun makes it a crappy game.

Games should be enjoyable and this just simply isnt. As a whole, I love this genre of game, but just not this one.


They have this thing called "difficulty selector"...use it.

If you want an interactive movie on easy mode go play CoD...
 

Sulaco

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Mar 28, 2003
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When your danish, german or swedish becomes just as good as my english, you can post again.

Get over yourself, kid.

I made the post in jest as you were being highly critical of someone whom you presumably know nothing about and have never met. To say nothing of your knowledge (or lack thereof) of me any foreign languages I know. Your post dripped with condescension.
Being abrasive and acerbic on internet forums doesn't make you a tough guy, it just makes you look like a complete ass.
Just thought you could use a heads up.
 

Lonbjerg

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Dec 6, 2009
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Get over yourself, kid.

I made the post in jest as you were being highly critical of someone whom you presumably know nothing about and have never met. To say nothing of your knowledge (or lack thereof) of me any foreign languages I know. Your post dripped with condescension.
Being abrasive and acerbic on internet forums doesn't make you a tough guy, it just makes you look like a complete ass.
Just thought you could use a heads up.

Sarcasm/humor translates poorly in writing, don't blame me for not being a mindreader...
 

Attic

Diamond Member
Jan 9, 2010
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This is one of those games that you have to stick with for 3-4 hours, perhaps more, till you fall in love with it.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Definitely a difficult fps compared to most, what with the darkness, tough enemies and limited ammo, but also definitely not too difficult. If you want run and gun, this aint your shooter.

Graphics were terrific, and that's without being near maxed out which my gtx260 couldn't manage.

Story kinda meh'ish.

Sequel is on the way and I'll be gettin it.

---tangent---

On Opinions. Yes, everyone is entitled to have them, and no opinion can be labeled 100% correct or incorrect, since personal preference is after all the essence of an opinion. However, there is such a thing as opinion consensus, or popular opinion, which carries greater weight than individual opinion at least with regard to obtaining a somewhat more objective determination of a games "goodness" or "suckiness".

When, for instance, a game has thousands of user votes on say, gamespot, with an average rating of 8 or 9, and is coupled with critical reviews of similar caliber, then it is more likely than not that the game's merits far outweigh its detriments. Thus, it approaches a standard nearing an objective label of "good".

Hell, even the Godfather Part II, considered almost unanimously by film critics to be the finest film in existence, received a negative review from the NY Times. That dissenter's opinion does not destroy the essentially entirely positive consensus that the movie is good.

For the tldr:
- an opinion that a game is good or bad is subjective
- a statement of fact that the overwhelming consensus of gamers and critics judge a game to be good is objective
- ultimately no one gives a shit about anyone else's positive/negative opinion if the person himself feels differently about the product