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Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
Originally posted by: So
The problem with metric is that many of the units aren't convenient for day to day life. Sure, a cm can replace an inch, but a foot is MUCH more convenient to use than a meter. Metric is great for calculations, and a lot of things, most of which we're switching to on our own (liters, etc...)
yea, it'll be a slow transition, I figure about the same time those silly British (and Aussies) start driving on the right side of the road, the rest of us will have completly converted to metric.

As opposed to the wrong side of the road?
I don't know where a foot would be a much more convenient measuring unit than a meter... But sure you might enlighten me

Calin
the right side of the road...you know the side opposite the left, like the vast majority of countrys.

niether metric or american standard units are any easier to use than the other. if you learned american standard first the conversions within it are simple and strait forward. Metric is the same if you learned it first it would be simple and strait forward. (just like speaking other languages, whatever language you learn first makes the most sense) converting from one to the other is the tricky part for most people.

globalism is a long and slow process, I know it will likely be eons before the British (and others) start driving on the right side of the road, and that's about how long it'll take before the rest of fully use the metric system.
 
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Originally posted by: nineball9
On another note, it was rather sad to watch the US commentators at the Olympics having to convert units for US viewers. All Olympic measurements are metric, but the commentators had to convert high jump, long lump, pole vault, discus, hammer, javelin, etc distances from meters to feet and inches.
They didn't on the channel I watched them on. Everything was done it metric.
 

Demon-Xanth

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So when is metric time going to come into play? :)

As far as the english system goes:
Inch: about the distance from the tip of your index finger to the first knucle.
Foot: about the length of your foot
Yard: about the length of the tip of your finger to the center of your chest.

Makes for easy estimation.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
So when is metric time going to come into play? :)

As far as the english system goes:
Inch: about the distance from the tip of your index finger to the first knucle.
Foot: about the length of your foot
Yard: about the length of the tip of your finger to the center of your chest.

Makes for easy estimation.
I can use my fingers to mesure about 1cm, 10cm
and hands for 30cm, 1m and so on

just depends on what you are used to work with, but those mesurements are anything but exact, so not very valid
 

WolverineGator

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Originally posted by: Lazee
well then... we should just invade every fvcking country and unify all the races, measurements, languages and standards.

What planet have you been living on? We're invading as fast as we can!
 

I agree with dullard.

I've spent much of my life in Canada, and still cannot use the celsius scale for temperature as it relates to weather.
There is just no feeling for me in the celsius system. I've used fahrenheit me entire life, and I will continue to use it for the rest of my life.

90 is hot, not 32.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
I think the US will be metric and celcius by the end of the century if not earlier. Globalization. If you have engineers all over the world working together, you need to pick one system, and engineering is already metric based largely.
I think the metric system uses the Kelvin system for temperature.
 

nCred

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: dullard
Metric is better for many things. However, there are a few places where converting to metric is not a good thing.

The best example is Fahrenheit vs Celsius. There is no reason at all to switch to Celsius. Fahrenheit is just better in pretty much every possible way for the average citizen.
[*]People's limits of sensitivity is just about exactly one °F. People can just barely feel the difference between 70°F and 71°F. Room thermostats, hot water heaters, etc are all thus perfectly designed without needing decimal points. Celsius on the other hand needs to be programed in multiples of 0.56°C to be at the limits of human sensitivity.
[*]For every measurements, Fahrenheit is perfect. What is the most common use of temperature? To know what to wear that day. 0°F is cold and below 0°F you need severe protection from the elements for any length of time you spend outside. 100°F is hot and above 100°F you need severe protection from the elements for any length of time you spend outside. Right in the middle at 50°F a person can wear anything at all and be ok - shorts or pants, jacket or not, etc. What are those same limits in Celsius? Yep -17.8°C, 10°C, and 37.8°C. How inconvenient. In fact over much of the civilized world 0°F and 100°F are the typical limits of temperatures. Sure you'll get the occasional peak over that, but not by far.
[*]When should you consider seeing a doctor? Above 100°F. Great and easy number to remember. In Celsius that is 37.8°C - not easy to remember.
[*]Both have well defined and simple to measure limits at 0°C and 0°F. There is no benefit there.


that the most idiotic thing i've ever read... first two points are completly arbitrary and i will bet you money that you CANNOT tell the diff of temperature of 1degree Fahrenheit.

Your point about common use is just plain wrong. Fahrenheit designated his scale as foollows:
0 - coldest temperature he could achieve at the time (completly useless and arbitrary)
100 - body temperature (except he was off by a degree)

So basically this scale is based on two fvckups.

Celsius 0 - freezing 100 - boiling water. Normal body temp is 36 degrees.
I agree with halik, except normal body temperature is 37 degrees. You go to the doctor if your body temp is 40 C. VERY bad arguments dullard.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Lazee
well then... we should just invade every fvcking country and unify all the races, measurements, languages and standards.
Except for the invasion part - and how the hell do you "unify races", anyway - that doesn't sound so bad.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Lazee
well then... we should just invade every fvcking country and unify all the races, measurements, languages and standards.
Except for the invasion part - and how the hell do you "unify races", anyway - that doesn't sound so bad.

Well the Mexicans are the descendents of the Spanish and the Aztecs. So as we invade countries, we just start interracially breeding.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
My school recently had a new building built and I think the teacher said that the contractor cussed every swear word they could think of and said my school was communist because the building was designed using metric units... lol.

Don't get me wrong, I think metric is a superior system (no more fractions to worry about) but I highly doubt that we'll actually completely switch to metric. probably not even in my lifetime.

I would be pissed to most constroction matterial is measured to in inchs and feet so if say the height isn't easly divided by feet then that would just suck. And if the building is based on standard lengths why not just use english to begin with.

Building matrials will be one of the last items to change to metric sizes because feet are just a better unit and lots of building matrials go into older building designed for the standard 16 off center 2x4x8,10,12... and 8x4 plywood and drywall.
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
I would be pissed to most constroction matterial is measured to in inchs and feet so if say the height isn't easly divided by feet then that would just suck. And if the building is based on standard lengths why not just use english to begin with.

Building matrials will be one of the last items to change to metric sizes because feet are just a better unit and lots of building matrials go into older building designed for the standard 16 off center 2x4x8,10,12... and 8x4 plywood and drywall.
Great deal of irony in defending the english system when one cannot even speak english.

 

VIAN

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metric is french, so fsck it.
Metric is the only good thing that came out of the French. And if you can't admit to that, then you suck. The metric system F-ing rules.

The problem with metric is that many of the units aren't convenient for day to day life. Sure, a cm can replace an inch, but a foot is MUCH more convenient to use than a meter.
oh yeah, just because it's a single digit. That's not why the metric system rocks. The metric system rocks because its simple to convert from Kg to g, cm to m, mm to m, m to km.

How many inches are in a mile, without looking it up. Thought so.

base F(16)
F is a 15 in hex.

They have been trying to change it since 1975 . Well really 1916. It isn't going to happen.
They can if they wanted to.

Of of the problems is that metric is based upon base 10. This makes the treatment of thirds a little difficult. It would be better to have it base 12. Thirds, quarters and sixths are now integer parts (of course fifths are now non-integral, but this is used much less). I am of the opinion that this should apply to our counting system as well, but that is for another thread.................
The number system is base 10, that's more natural, so why not a base10 system.

We'll never switch to metric in the US because we're too resistant to such types of changes..
And, because the general population in the US is too stupid to learn to use the metric system. (just like the majority of people in the US can only speak one language, unlike the rest of the educated world)
Hey, hey, hey... I resent that. We Americans barely know how to speak one language. :) And by the way, I'm serious about it. People suck at speaking and writing english in america.

I think the US will be metric and celcius by the end of the century if not earlier. Globalization. If you have engineers all over the world working together, you need to pick one system, and engineering is already metric based largely.
Globalization is a dream that narrowminded people don't care about. Everyone wants to be important, like retards, and they never better the world because they suck massive ass.

Quick! How many inches in a mile?
Damn, you stole it first.

People who feel we should stick with our crappy, inferior system, just because it makes us different are idiots and deserve to be treated with a condescending attitude.
I think they should be shot for making the world a worse place to live, but your way is fine too.

so is the statue of liberty. let's fvck that.
That'll chafe my willie.:)

Who the hell cares the only time you every have to convert units is when some jack ass physic teacher gives the question in stupid units in the first place
This is where the other systems suck ass.

The advantage of the metric system is that you don't need to deal with fractions, and changing to larger or smaller measurements is as easy as moving the decimal point.
1cm = 1/100 m - hows that.

I agree with dullard.

I've spent much of my life in Canada, and still cannot use the celsius scale for temperature as it relates to weather.
There is just no feeling for me in the celsius system. I've used fahrenheit me entire life, and I will continue to use it for the rest of my life.

90 is hot, not 32.
I've was raised on the english system. Then I learned the metric system and fell in love. Then I got a computer. 100 or 40 degrees. The only reason why some people think that 100 degrees seems nicer is cause when you feel the heat, 40 is not in your head. That crap is hot and you want a high number. Still, I happen to know that when my mobo was at 32C, I though, nice and cool. I don't know what that is in fahrenheit. I like the C system.

Except for the invasion part - and how the hell do you "unify races", anyway - that doesn't sound so bad.
I'm a supporter. It will end all racism. All you have to do is go interracial. Have sex with different races and procreate. If we keep doing that, eventually we will all look alike.

 

dethman

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Originally posted by: dullard
Metric is better for many things. However, there are a few places where converting to metric is not a good thing.

The best example is Fahrenheit vs Celsius. There is no reason at all to switch to Celsius. Fahrenheit is just better in pretty much every possible way for the average citizen.
[*]People's limits of sensitivity is just about exactly one °F. People can just barely feel the difference between 70°F and 71°F. Room thermostats, hot water heaters, etc are all thus perfectly designed without needing decimal points. Celsius on the other hand needs to be programed in multiples of 0.56°C to be at the limits of human sensitivity.
[*]For every measurements, Fahrenheit is perfect. What is the most common use of temperature? To know what to wear that day. 0°F is cold and below 0°F you need severe protection from the elements for any length of time you spend outside. 100°F is hot and above 100°F you need severe protection from the elements for any length of time you spend outside. Right in the middle at 50°F a person can wear anything at all and be ok - shorts or pants, jacket or not, etc. What are those same limits in Celsius? Yep -17.8°C, 10°C, and 37.8°C. How inconvenient. In fact over much of the civilized world 0°F and 100°F are the typical limits of temperatures. Sure you'll get the occasional peak over that, but not by far.
[*]When should you consider seeing a doctor? Above 100°F. Great and easy number to remember. In Celsius that is 37.8°C - not easy to remember.
[*]Both have well defined and simple to measure limits at 0°C and 0°F. There is no benefit there.

that is the one of the stupidest and most nonsensical posts ever. your points are completely arbitrary and completely subjective! how could someone post such dribble.

0,50, and 100 F? wtf kinds of points are those? i'm sure everyone would wear something before it got to 0F and wouldn't wear shorts in 50F weather like you propose.

as a doctor, i'll tell you NO you should NOT see your doctor with a fever of 100F.

if i were to refute your argument then WTF are numbers like 32 and 212? vs 0 and 100? actual meaningful points instead of arbitrary numbers???

please. stop posting.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: dullard
Metric is better for many things. However, there are a few places where converting to metric is not a good thing.

The best example is Fahrenheit vs Celsius. There is no reason at all to switch to Celsius. Fahrenheit is just better in pretty much every possible way for the average citizen.
[*]People's limits of sensitivity is just about exactly one °F. People can just barely feel the difference between 70°F and 71°F. Room thermostats, hot water heaters, etc are all thus perfectly designed without needing decimal points. Celsius on the other hand needs to be programed in multiples of 0.56°C to be at the limits of human sensitivity.
[*]For every measurements, Fahrenheit is perfect. What is the most common use of temperature? To know what to wear that day. 0°F is cold and below 0°F you need severe protection from the elements for any length of time you spend outside. 100°F is hot and above 100°F you need severe protection from the elements for any length of time you spend outside. Right in the middle at 50°F a person can wear anything at all and be ok - shorts or pants, jacket or not, etc. What are those same limits in Celsius? Yep -17.8°C, 10°C, and 37.8°C. How inconvenient. In fact over much of the civilized world 0°F and 100°F are the typical limits of temperatures. Sure you'll get the occasional peak over that, but not by far.
[*]When should you consider seeing a doctor? Above 100°F. Great and easy number to remember. In Celsius that is 37.8°C - not easy to remember.
[*]Both have well defined and simple to measure limits at 0°C and 0°F. There is no benefit there.

that is the one of the stupidest and most nonsensical posts ever. your points are completely arbitrary and completely subjective! how could someone post such dribble.

0,50, and 100 F? wtf kinds of points are those? i'm sure everyone would wear something before it got to 0F and wouldn't wear shorts in 50F weather like you propose.

as a doctor, i'll tell you NO you should NOT see your doctor with a fever of 100F.

if i were to refute your argument then WTF are numbers like 32 and 212? vs 0 and 100? actual meaningful points instead of arbitrary numbers???

please. stop posting.


Kelvin > Celsius and Faranheit. Screw negative numbers!
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: dethman
that is the one of the stupidest and most nonsensical posts ever. your points are completely arbitrary and completely subjective! how could someone post such dribble.

that kind of argument pops up a lot in metric vs imperical system discussions. the imperical system is obviously more natural and easier to use for people who grew up with it but many fail to recognize the subjectiness in their view.

having grown up with the metric system, it is much more natural to me than the imperical system.
 

randumb

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Metric is definitely superior, but I've gotten used to the imperial system, it's kinda like a bad habit.
 

Ornery

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'Bout time we got back on topic, eh?

"My school recently had a new building built..."

Building materials in THIS COUNTRY are sold in feet and inches. 4'x8' sheets of plywood and drywall etc.. 8', 10', 12', 14', 16'... lengths of lumber and other structural components. Can you imagine what this contractor has to go through to apease these fvcktards? Can you not see the waste in material and time?