Methamphetamine Scourge Sweeps Rural America

[vi edit]

And comparing sudafed to meth is like saying rubbing alcohol is the same as a bottle of crown royal.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
And comparing sudafed to meth is like saying rubbing alcohol is the same as a bottle of crown royal.

I don't understand your comparison. Are you saying that sudafed is a deadly poison like rubbing alcohol?

Rubbing alcohol = 70% wood alcohol - deadly poison
Crown Royal = 40% grain alcohol

 

[vi edit]

No I'm simply saying that comparing the two is ridiculous at best.

Two VERY different reactions, health risks, and addiction potentials. Hence the reason sudafed is OTC and non-controlled and Methamphetamine is schedule II (and is being heavily pushed to be be schedule I).

 

[IGBT]

..friends I know have got caught in the meth rut and used it to the point of death. Everybody I know who has gone thru rehab for meth..failed and returned to meth addiction. For most people it seems once the brain becomes pathwayed for meth addiction it's nearly impossible to stop. They will use it till it kills them. While they are on their way to the graveyard they will make life miserable for their family and friends and take full advantage of their trust..to rob..steal..swindle money for their meth addiction. Meth addicts for all practical purposes have dehumanized them selves and a physcological death occurs in the user..they are only human in appearance. The worst possible case is a family member who has access to your home..once you see them for the monster they have become the only recourse is to throw em out and change the locks and realize that person..is a person no more. Does it sound like I have personal experience with this thing?? Yup..I had to change the locks in my home...

 

[Rogue]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..friends I know have got caught in the meth rut and used it to the point of death. Everybody I know who has gone thru rehab for meth..failed and returned to meth addiction. For most people it seems once the brain becomes pathwayed for meth addiction it's nearly impossible to stop. They will use it till it kills them. While they are on their way to the graveyard they will make life miserable for their family and friends and take full advantage of their trust..to rob..steal..swindle money for their meth addiction. Meth addicts for all practical purposes have dehumanized them selves and a physcological death occurs in the user..they are only human in appearance. The worst possible case is a family member who has access to your home..once you see them for the monster they have become the only recourse is to throw em out and change the locks and realize that person..is a person no more. Does it sound like I have personal experience with this thing?? Yup..I had to change the locks in my home...

That description bears weight alongside the medical and physical effects of meth.

"Studies also have shown that monkeys given just 10 doses of methamphetamine suffer a severe reduction of dopamine, a body chemical that allows one to feel pleasure, aids memory and boosts concentration, among other things. Effects in monkeys have lasted two years and longer." Source

Essentially, meth causes the brain to produce or overproduce dopamine, which causes the feel good portion of meth consumption. They are finding that humans are limited in the amount of dopamine that our brains can produce, therefore by expediting the release of it by meth use, people are essentially exhausting their means to release dopamine naturally. Dopamine is essential in emotional stability and brain function when released naturally. Basically, the absence of dopamine has shown to cause severe depression and a number of other serious physchological issues. When someone stops taking meth, essentially the brain acts like it's just run a marathon and it ceases to produce dopamine as it normally would, causing the user to feel extremely depressed when they are NOT on meth. It's believed that ceasing meth use entirely will leave the person in a constant state of depression that cannot be reversed.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Rogue

That description bears weight alongside the medical and physical effects of meth.

"Studies also have shown that monkeys given just 10 doses of methamphetamine suffer a severe reduction of dopamine, a body chemical that allows one to feel pleasure, aids memory and boosts concentration, among other things. Effects in monkeys have lasted two years and longer." Source

Essentially, meth causes the brain to produce or overproduce dopamine, which causes the feel good portion of meth consumption. They are finding that humans are limited in the amount of dopamine that our brains can produce, therefore by expediting the release of it by meth use, people are essentially exhausting their means to release dopamine naturally. Dopamine is essential in emotional stability and brain function when released naturally. Basically, the absence of dopamine has shown to cause severe depression and a number of other serious physchological issues. When someone stops taking meth, essentially the brain acts like it's just run a marathon and it ceases to produce dopamine as it normally would, causing the user to feel extremely depressed when they are NOT on meth. It's believed that ceasing meth use entirely will leave the person in a constant state of depression that cannot be reversed.

I've heard that before. The question that comes to mind is this. If they have exhausted the bodies supply of Dopamine would doing Meth cease to give them the same results they had before their bodies supply of Dopamine was exhausted?

 

[Rogue]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Rogue

That description bears weight alongside the medical and physical effects of meth.

"Studies also have shown that monkeys given just 10 doses of methamphetamine suffer a severe reduction of dopamine, a body chemical that allows one to feel pleasure, aids memory and boosts concentration, among other things. Effects in monkeys have lasted two years and longer." Source

Essentially, meth causes the brain to produce or overproduce dopamine, which causes the feel good portion of meth consumption. They are finding that humans are limited in the amount of dopamine that our brains can produce, therefore by expediting the release of it by meth use, people are essentially exhausting their means to release dopamine naturally. Dopamine is essential in emotional stability and brain function when released naturally. Basically, the absence of dopamine has shown to cause severe depression and a number of other serious physchological issues. When someone stops taking meth, essentially the brain acts like it's just run a marathon and it ceases to produce dopamine as it normally would, causing the user to feel extremely depressed when they are NOT on meth. It's believed that ceasing meth use entirely will leave the person in a constant state of depression that cannot be reversed.

I've heard that before. The question that comes to mind is this. If they have exhausted the bodies supply of Dopamine would doing Meth cease to give them the same results they had before their bodies supply of Dopamine was exhausted?

Yes, that has been my understanding and it becomes the driving reason why people use it until they kill themselves. As they use it, they require more and more to get the same dopamine effect until finally they just can't take enough to produce enough dopamine to make themselves "feel good". If I remember correctly, most meth addicts die from overdose than any other reason, I could be wrong though. I know that they lose vast amounts of weight because of their heightened activity levels and inability to sleep during their "high," so their lack of general health could contribute also.

 

[tweakmm]

<Dangle>Don't wanna metha with meth seth.</Dangle>

 

[Tea Bag]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
This stuff is really bad in Iowa...

A city about a hour south of me has implemented a policy that you have to show ID and they have a system set up for every time you buy the cold medicine needed to make it... They're trying to get it into state law...

You can already be busted in my town for "buying precursors to manufacture methamphetamine(s)"...

Whenever you see a more than one cop car in my town.. 9/10 times - it's a meth lab. There was one three blocks down from my house. Closed down the entire street for the night to get hasmat in and out. (Iowa)

 

[BentValve]

Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BentValve
Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

You applying for a Rhodes Scholarship?

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve
Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

You applying for a Rhodes Scholarship?

You a Meth user?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve
Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

You applying for a Rhodes Scholarship?

You a Meth user?

No, I'm your Daddy!

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve
Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

You applying for a Rhodes Scholarship?

You a Meth user?

No, I'm your Daddy!

That's what your mom calls me.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve
Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

You applying for a Rhodes Scholarship?

You a Meth user?

No, I'm your Daddy!

That's what your mom calls me.

A Meth User?:shocked:

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BentValve
Why dont we start some sort of legal use of drugs, the drug users can be slaves to the Government...the Govt will provide free drugs , food and clothing but in turn the users will spend there lives working in a slavery camp run by the Government.

Either that or make it so that if you get caught using, all that is needed is a blood sample...if youve been using then automatic death penalty should be given...death with a bullet to the head , burn the body and move on to the next. Spend .10 on the bullet and whatever the cost is for a burn job at the morgue.

You applying for a Rhodes Scholarship?

You a Meth user?

No, I'm your Daddy!

That's what your mom calls me.

A Meth User?:shocked:

Good one! :roll: :laugh:!


BTW you mom says clean your room or your dad is going to break out the belt tonight.

 

[Freejack2]

There was this guy about a quarter mile up the road from my in-laws who had a meth lab in the garage of the house he was renting. A couple of years ago the meth lab exploded, burning the garage down and the guy died with burns over 90% of his body. Stupid fools and their drugs. :roll:

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: Rogue
That description bears weight alongside the medical and physical effects of meth.

"Studies also have shown that monkeys given just 10 doses of methamphetamine suffer a severe reduction of dopamine, a body chemical that allows one to feel pleasure, aids memory and boosts concentration, among other things. Effects in monkeys have lasted two years and longer." Source

Essentially, meth causes the brain to produce or overproduce dopamine, which causes the feel good portion of meth consumption. They are finding that humans are limited in the amount of dopamine that our brains can produce, therefore by expediting the release of it by meth use, people are essentially exhausting their means to release dopamine naturally. Dopamine is essential in emotional stability and brain function when released naturally. Basically, the absence of dopamine has shown to cause severe depression and a number of other serious physchological issues. When someone stops taking meth, essentially the brain acts like it's just run a marathon and it ceases to produce dopamine as it normally would, causing the user to feel extremely depressed when they are NOT on meth. It's believed that ceasing meth use entirely will leave the person in a constant state of depression that cannot be reversed.

dont know about that, doc. i trapped around for a long time sprung out of my mind. when i stopped i was depressed for a good two and half/three years after but i managed to drag myself out of it. seem to be alright these days.

 

[LordMorpheus]

big problem in the Saint Louis area.

Up North Country houses explode with disturbing regularity as the occupants try to make meth while high on it.

 

[ProviaFan]

It's quite a problem here in southern IN, also.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
It's quite a problem here in southern IN, also.

Heh, that's where I did the news at.

All of those drugs in Orange County.

 

[Schneider879]

North Dakota has tons of meth dealers.