Metallica's Load is twenty years old

[Eli]

i'd say it's better than the black album. now, THAT is garbage.

lol Not sure if serious....

I'm fond of a lot of songs on Load but not very many make it onto my Pandora channel come to think of it...

 

[KMFJD]

The last Metallica album i really liked was And Justice for All

 

[TechBoyJK]

And instrumental album of Orion's and To Live is to Die style songs would be a welcomed surprise.

 

[RPD]

Guess I'll join on the train..

Both albums have a few songs I can listen too, but I like Load better of the two.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Funny enough, the most sellout thing they did was probably my favorite. I had so much fun playing Guitar Hero: Metallica.

 

[edro]

Sellouts...
Not metal...
Music snobs are the worst.

Load was and is an awesome album.
Metallica evolved with the times like all great bands.

 

[Arcadio]

Load is a great album, but let's not kid ourselves: they knew metal was dead and that there was more money in going alternative. They still wrote a great album, but they are definitely businessmen.

 

[Anubis]

Load was actually a solid album, reload no so much

S&M while not new music was an amazing concept and very well done

St Anger was pretty shit, Death Magnetic could have been better but it was ruined by the mastering


also not sure why everyone hates on the Black Album.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'm shocked. Looked at my metallica collection on my phone. I only keep the songs I like off of albums. I kept 14 songs off of load. That is number one of all the albums. The second most songs is disc 2 Of garage inc with 12. Been listening since kill em all.

 

[nakedfrog]

Load is a great album, but let's not kid ourselves: they knew metal was dead and that there was more money in going alternative. They still wrote a great album, but they are definitely businessmen.

I don't think I got that memo. Is it possible you're wrong? Because I'm pretty sure you are.

 

[Ruptga]

I don't think I got that memo. Is it possible you're wrong? Because I'm pretty sure you are.

Metal isn't in a great place here in NA, new releases in the genre haven't been consistently popular in around 20 years (not counting NIN and other crossover/fusion acts, which there are a lot of). It's still not dead, but if you like recent good metal most of what you listen to will be from Europe and maybe Australia.

 

[Arcadio]

I don't think I got that memo. Is it possible you're wrong? Because I'm pretty sure you are.

Compared to the 70's,80's and early 90's, metal in 1996 was dead.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Compared to the 70's,80's and early 90's, metal in 1996 was dead.

The Great Southern Trendkill album stayed on the 1996 billboard chart for 16 weeks.

 

[Anubis]

The Great Southern Trendkill album stayed on the 1996 billboard chart for 16 weeks.

RATM released Evil Empire in 96, and Battle for LA in 99

Tool released Aenima in 96

metal was far from dead in the mid/late 90s I could post more but im lazy

 

[postmortemIA]

RATM released Evil Empire in 96, and Battle for LA in 99

Tool released Aenima in 96

metal was far from dead in the mid/late 90s I could post more but im lazy

All of these are very different from 80s metal, which is a sort of gold standard. In 80s metal moved successfully in few directions, and none of these worked well in 90s. Metal in 90s is a different beast, and bands that did not change had really hard time. Pretty much everybody experimented in that decade.

Beside few bright spots, metal has been on rehash since 2000s. For example thrash revival bands, shitload of progressive bands, and all of them sounding same and generic.

 

[ControlD]

All of these are very different from 80s metal, which is a sort of gold standard. In 80s metal moved successfully in few directions, and none of these worked well in 90s. Metal in 90s is a different beast, and bands that did not change had really hard time. Pretty much everybody experimented in that decade.

Beside few bright spots, metal has been on rehash since 2000s. For example thrash revival bands, shitload of progressive bands, and all of them sounding same and generic.

If we are talking about traditional metal, I would agree for the most part.

I do think there is plenty of innovative and excellent metal still happening out there but it tends to be more in the "extreme" categories. Those take a little different taste to appreciate I suppose compared to bands like Metallica. It is also harder to be exposed to the better new stuff as it gets pretty much zero radio play.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I don't think I got that memo. Is it possible you're wrong? Because I'm pretty sure you are.

Metal in any shape or form is not at the level it used to be. It used to be mainstream, now its just a bunch of niches. Name one metal album that will be considered a cultural milestone from the past 20 years. The late 70s, 80s, and early 90s is full of them (and multiple different metal bands had major mainstream appeal).

That doesn't mean it sucks and there's no good metal now, in fact in many ways I think it is the best its ever been since there's all manner of styles, and we shockingly didn't lose nearly as many metal artists as one would expect, so you can still catch many of those megastar bands live.

RATM released Evil Empire in 96, and Battle for LA in 99

Tool released Aenima in 96

metal was far from dead in the mid/late 90s I could post more but im lazy

RATM and Tool are quite a bit different and are a perfect example of how metal changed.

 

[smackababy]

Once Black Album was released, it was shit downhill from there. Basically, once they ran out of Mustaine written material.

 

[ninaholic37]

I remember only liking two songs on Load, I thought Reload was a lot more well-rounded.

 

[Eli]

Once Black Album was released, it was shit downhill from there. Basically, once they ran out of Mustaine written material.

I love Megadeth, but.. you wish. There wasn't much if any Mustaine on MoP, and it was completely gone by ...AJFA.

Unless you're going to argue that its just Mustaine's influence, which would be present to this day.. in some form.

 

[ControlD]

I love Megadeth, but.. you wish. There wasn't much if any Mustaine on MoP, and it was completely gone by ...AJFA.

Unless you're going to argue that its just Mustaine's influence, which would be present to this day.. in some form.

I don't think there was much Mustaine even in Ride The Lightning. One or two songs maybe.

 

[ninaholic37]

recorded the midi of Until it Sleeps with gxscc sounds for the lolz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOEcBS7JxHI

 

[Tempered81]

Guess I'll join on the train..

Both albums have a few songs I can listen too, but I like Load better of the two.

 

[nakedfrog]

All of these are very different from 80s metal, which is a sort of gold standard. In 80s metal moved successfully in few directions, and none of these worked well in 90s. Metal in 90s is a different beast, and bands that did not change had really hard time. Pretty much everybody experimented in that decade.

Beside few bright spots, metal has been on rehash since 2000s. For example thrash revival bands, shitload of progressive bands, and all of them sounding same and generic.

Metal in any shape or form is not at the level it used to be. It used to be mainstream, now its just a bunch of niches. Name one metal album that will be considered a cultural milestone from the past 20 years. The late 70s, 80s, and early 90s is full of them (and multiple different metal bands had major mainstream appeal).

That doesn't mean it sucks and there's no good metal now, in fact in many ways I think it is the best its ever been since there's all manner of styles, and we shockingly didn't lose nearly as many metal artists as one would expect, so you can still catch many of those megastar bands live.



RATM and Tool are quite a bit different and are a perfect example of how metal changed.

These are kind of meaningless metrics to me. You could pretty much say the same of punk, or even standard "hard rock". It's simply the nature of the beast, given the distance from the birth of rock and roll to each subsequent decade. Our entire listening experience has changed so much that it's hard to say if it's even possible for there to be such an album anymore.
It got a bit of a later start, but I think we're probably at the same point with hip-hop/rap now.
Regardless, maybe there was a changing of the guard in the mid-90s, but I don't feel there's any reasonable claim that metal was dead in 1996.
Maybe you guys are just getting old and crochety and nothing is as good as it was when you were younger

 

[Anubis]

I don't think there was much Mustaine even in Ride The Lightning. One or two songs maybe.

yea I thought hes influence was mostly done by then, RTL, MoP and some of AJFA were mostly Cliff