Metallica And justice for All 5.99

Cooky

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This is the price that the music industry should set on their CDs so that people wouldn't be pirating the musicians' hard work.
Great album by the way.
 

Oakenfold

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HALLS OF JUSTICE PAINTED GRAY/MONEY TALKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Truly one of the neatest political bashes on CD, a classic.
Brings back warm fuzzy feelings of being a young out of control teenager!!
WOOHOO!
:D
 

DEFIANT1

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To echo the sympathys of my fellow ferengies: This is truly a work of art, and a far cry from the crap they've been putting out since going "mainstream"
 

pseudoquasi

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Damn good price...I still buy CD's, cuz I like the pretty pictures and words. Music clubs are the cheapest way to go if you do it right, but they never carry Metallica stuff (control freaks!), so this price rocks...

I found a few other good CD's there too for $5.99: Tool - Lateralus (everyone needs this!), Wellwater Conspiracy (former/current members of Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Monster Magnet), Sloan (awesome rock from our neighbors to the north), Dire Straits, and some decent rap/hip-hop discs, too...actually theres a bunch of good records for pretty cheap, just page thru em all.

Also, if you go to the obese billfold, you can find a coupon for 5% off for first time buyers (like me). Shipping is $2.95 flat rate no matter how much you buy, so basically i got 3 CD's shipped for $20.02...not bad at all....good find!
 

TheBeast

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Oakenfold,
HALLS OF JUSTICE PAINTED GRAY/MONEY TALKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit quick ... its halls of justice painted GREEN/money talking

Jaymz definitely writes sweet lyrics

[metallica zealot]You 'tallica haters are all wrong, they still rule the world[/metallica zealot]
 

FSUpaintball

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awwwwwwwwwwheeeeeeeeeelllllllllllzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

If only I hadn't gotten the whole thing on MP3....

GREAT album. Gotta love their old stuff.
 

Oakenfold

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Edit quick

Heh, thanks man..
But it's been a LONG time since I've jammed to it...my memory ain't so great anymore! :D

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE PRICE WE PAY!!!!!!
NOTHING CAN SAVE US
JUSTICE IS LOST
JUSTICE IS RAPED
JUSTICE IS DONE!!!!


Did I get the chorus right?
 

Willith

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Sweet deal! :) Thanks Joker! Metallica went down hill after the death of Cliff Burton, but this was the best album after him the first one too), the "Black" album was ok, but you could tell they were heading down the path of the $ and forgetting where they came from. They are one of the best live bands I've ever seen though.
 

ValsalvaYourHeartOut

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I would never buy a Metallica CD if my life depended on it...How can you support a band that had the audacity sue the makers of Napster, a program that we all loved so much!? ...a greedy band that forced Napster into bankruptcy and sparked a piss-poor legal precedent that would affect trade of mp3's online in the future. I suggest that you all download the latest Metallica offering off WinMX or Kazaa...do not support Metallica out of principle.

Valsalva
 

TheBeast

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Did I get the chorus right?

Close;) "Nothing can save you, justice is lost, justice is raped, justice is gone ..... pulling your strings, justice is done"

Valsalva,

settle down, Take your anger out on RIAA, not metallica ... or take it out on metallica, it doesn't matter 'cause they ain't going away anytime soon.
 

RudeBoie

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Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut
I would never buy a Metallica CD if my life depended on it...How can you support a band that had the audacity sue the makers of Napster, a program that we all loved so much!? ...a greedy band that forced Napster into bankruptcy and sparked a piss-poor legal precedent that would affect trade of mp3's online in the future. I suggest that you all download the latest Metallica offering off WinMX or Kazaa...do not support Metallica out of principle.

Valsalva

Yeah, that's right. Anyone who wants to protect their own interests is greedy.

While I would argue, in my case, that mp3's help me decide whose concerts and albums to buy, an artist should get to decide if he wants to be shared that way. Not everyone tours.
 

Oakenfold

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I loved napster, but Metallica has a right to protect what is theirs. If it wasn't metallica it would have been someone else.
Blame the RIAA if you want to blame anyone, they just needed some names to back them up. That would draw media attention, before bands got involved you think anyone would listen to that whiny RIAA heffer? What's her name Hillary something?

Besides this album was before that time, I admit the M'ers have changed quite a bit, but there is quite a bit of political attacks against
the govenrment in this album.


Let us love the once great music that used to be produced by them!


but you could tell they were heading down the path of the $ and forgetting where they came from.
Yup. So true, they sold out. Greatness falls after a time. It doesn't mean that their old stuff sux by any means, you will
see me start going nutz when oldschool metallica comes on the radio(which is EXTREMELy rare).
Heh, and I'm into Trance not rock!

Thanks TheBeast
Was pretty close!


I can't remember anything, can't tell if this is true or a dream.
Deep down inside I feel a scream. -------------------------------------Can't remember

HOLD MY BREATH AS I WISH FOR DEATH!
OH PLEASE GOD WAKE ME!

 

Cooky

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Originally posted by: frankqfrank
before metallica jumped the shark
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What's that mean?

huesmann,
I'm not frankqfrank so I'm not sure if this is right but I've heard the phrase from the Howard Stern show. According to Stern, jumping the shark means doing too much for something that it becomes an inappropriate thing to do, like Kevin Spacey was doing great until he jumped the shark in "K-PAX".
 

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I dont want to turn this hot deal into an OT debate here....But, how can you all preach that the new(er) Met stuff (beginning with the Black album) is when the band "sold out"? The Black Album marked the time when the band decided to get "professional" about there music. Hiring Bob Rock to produce the album was the greatest thing they could have done. That collaboration brought Metallica mainstream. They didnt "sell out". There old stuff rocks, there new stuff rocks. They are just different. If the band decided not to evolve with the times they would have just faded like so many other heavy metal bands...

...Arrogance and Ignorance go hand in hand....
 

frankqfrank

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jumping the shark means kind of "to start going downhill."

It's used more on TV shows, it originated from the episode of Happy Days when Fonzie jumps over a shark on water skis. It was the beginning of the downfall of that show. Check out www.jumpedtheshark.com
 

ValsalvaYourHeartOut

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Originally posted by: Oakenfold
I loved napster, but Metallica has a right to protect what is theirs. If it wasn't metallica it would have been someone else.
Blame the RIAA if you want to blame anyone, they just needed some names to back them up. That would draw media attention, before bands got involved you think anyone would listen to that whiny RIAA heffer?

No, I think I'll blame Metallica. mp3's are a wonderful medium for internet exchange of music, and it wasn't until Napster came along that the mp3 enthusiasm really skyrocketed. Before Napster, it was a real PITA to find any mp3, to the point where it wasn't worth it. I use mp3's to sample music from various artists, and I buy the CD's if I like what I hear. I also use mp3's for remixes that aren't available on CD and for special tracks you can't find elsewhere.

There are other bands out there that embraced the mp3 medium -- some even released a track or two for FREE on mp3 while others charged only a little for the download. The issue is clearly not piracy of music, it's about the greedy RIAA trying to strongarm another potential moneymaker: mp3's. Obviously, this medium could conceivably rake in a large revenue, and too bad the RIAA wasn't the brainchild of the operation. That title goes to Napster, which ultimately got raped in the process.

Look what the recording industry has done to the music industry. Before, at least the artists were somewhat talented, could actually sing, and had lyrics that were okay. Now, the greedy RIAA n Pals have turned American music into a jello-mold teeny-bopper heaven...it's not longer about talent, it's about marketing a product that will sell. This is how you get the likes of Britney Spears, *NSync, and Backdoor Boys -- entities that were contrived, solely to sell CD's to unwitting prepubescent girls and horny adolescent boys. RIAA controls who becomes a "star," and in doing so, they control the modern music that you listen to. This is why pop music, IMO, has completely degenerated over the last decade or so. ...and now, the recording industry wants to dominate another sector: the distribution and sale of mp3's.

So yes, blame the RIAA....but blame also the groups that support the monopolizing vision of the RIAA, that is, Metallica. Again, I refuse to support a band so greedy that they would threaten Napster as well as threaten to sue two U.S. universities (remember that?) for mp3 distribution. ...and for those of you who support Metallica or the RIAA, for that matter, then I suggest that you delete your mp3 collections out of consistency.

Valsalva
 

breweyez

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its amazing how people think these bands will keep making cd's if only a few buy them and then post their music for free on the internet. I admit I use kazaa....butt I know that the sharing of mp3's is changing the market and they will be seeking other ways to make money. So how will these bands stay in business??? Touring isnt going to genetate enough cash...in fact, the whole purpose of touring is to boost album(tshirt...etc) sales.

I think this thread should probably be moved to OT....if the discusion is going to be about MP3 pirating
 

huesmann

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Originally posted by: frankqfrank
jumping the shark means kind of "to start going downhill."

It's used more on TV shows, it originated from the episode of Happy Days when Fonzie jumps over a shark on water skis. It was the beginning of the downfall of that show. Check out www.jumpedtheshark.com

Thanks for enlightening me!