Merge of Xbox Live and PC gamers

[prochobo]

I've always been wondering if PC gamers will ever get to challenge Xbox live players (or any console gamers for that matter). I just have the extreme urge to own people playing FPS's with a controller and show them the true light . I saw a "keyboard/mouse enabled" option in the UT3 demo and that got me excited, although I do not know what that feature really entails. And with GoW coming out soon on PC, I want to play my buddies with 360's and vice versa so we can end the debate that keyboard and mouse owns all.

 

[Jschmuck2]

The XBox players better hope not.

And the console vs. pc option in UT3 has been eliminated.

 

[EvilComputer92]

MS won't allow true cross platform play. Ever. Not without making the controllers get auto aim while the PC gets nothing to even out the playing field, which was done in Shadowrun. I doubt Sony will either as it will make their controller seem inferior to kb/m. Kb/M clearly has a superiority in most games compared with controllers, but you'll never get to show console gamers that.

 

[ayabe]

Actually in a game like GoW a gamepad would trounce a KB/mouse combo.

 

[RandomFool]

I can't see gamepads ever beating kb/mouse. Ever.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: prochobo
I've always been wondering if PC gamers will ever get to challenge Xbox live players (or any console gamers for that matter). I just have the extreme urge to own people playing FPS's with a controller and show them the true light . I saw a "keyboard/mouse enabled" option in the UT3 demo and that got me excited, although I do not know what that feature really entails. And with GoW coming out soon on PC, I want to play my buddies with 360's and vice versa so we can end the debate that keyboard and mouse owns all.

Yeah I think everyone knows that kb/m> controller but that doesn't matter because when I am laying down on my couch with a controller, I'm not playing against people using kb/m.

You wouldn't be "showing the light" to much of anyone cuz I think everyone knows this.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Actually in a game like GoW a gamepad would trounce a KB/mouse combo.

Disagree... and I've converted to a 360. It'll be alot closer than in a first person shooter, but WASD + mouse will more often than not be the more accurate way for most in GoW. I'm getting used to the gamepad, but it just takes to long to turn around and make quick/accurate movements with the controller.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: ayabe
Actually in a game like GoW a gamepad would trounce a KB/mouse combo.

Disagree... and I've converted to a 360. It'll be alot closer than in a first person shooter, but WASD + mouse will more often than not be the more accurate way for most in GoW. I'm getting used to the gamepad, but it just takes to long to turn around and make quick/accurate movements with the controller.

For aiming I agree. But jumping in an out of cover and so forth would require some real keyboard gymnastics in GoW.

I would have to play the PC version to be sure, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how they could make it work as effectively.

 

[skyofavalon]

you would get spanked in Madden or NBA Live if you used a keyboard & mouse against a controller.

 

[potato28]

It won't happen for a long time. M$ won't let it happen, and Sony doesn't have a game that a lot of people would buy on both console and PC. The best implementation would be TF2, having 1 team of PC and 1 team of 360. Or mix and match for both teams.

 

[garkon]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: ayabe
Actually in a game like GoW a gamepad would trounce a KB/mouse combo.

Disagree... and I've converted to a 360. It'll be alot closer than in a first person shooter, but WASD + mouse will more often than not be the more accurate way for most in GoW. I'm getting used to the gamepad, but it just takes to long to turn around and make quick/accurate movements with the controller.

For aiming I agree. But jumping in an out of cover and so forth would require some real keyboard gymnastics in GoW.

I would have to play the PC version to be sure, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how they could make it work as effectively.

wasd + space would work just as easily as joystick + A i would think.

 

[Zenoth]

Fighting games are best played on controllers or arcade pads, that's for sure. I wouldn't see myself trying to play a fighting game on a keyboard, no thanks.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
Fighting games are best played on controllers or arcade pads, that's for sure. I wouldn't see myself trying to play a fighting game on a keyboard, no thanks.

fighting and sports games definitely require a controller. they shouldn't be played any other way.

racing games also are better with controllers. although steering wheels > *

 

[HannibalX]

<<<The XBox players better hope not.>>>

+1 Talk about ownage. Take CS:Source for example. All the AWP whores would have a field day with the cannon fodder trying to fight back with a controller or flight stick.

 

[DangerAardvark]

This is so f-ing easy. Put a damn USB port on the 360 already, for god's sake. There's a reason this hasn't happened already and I guarantee you it's for financial reasons rather than gameplay issues.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
This is so f-ing easy. Put a damn USB port on the 360 already, for god's sake. There's a reason this hasn't happened already and I guarantee you it's for financial reasons rather than gameplay issues.

There are USB ports on the 360.

 

[MarcVenice]

Second crossplatform game coming out is an RTS, called Universe at War: Earth Assault. Live gamers from both xbox 360 and Vista can battle each other How's that for a change hehe.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
This is so f-ing easy. Put a damn USB port on the 360 already, for god's sake. There's a reason this hasn't happened already and I guarantee you it's for financial reasons rather than gameplay issues.

There are USB ports on the 360.

And it definitely isn't for financial reasons they haven't had a merger.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Second crossplatform game coming out is an RTS, called Universe at War: Earth Assault. Live gamers from both xbox 360 and Vista can battle each other How's that for a change hehe.

Hope it's good. Might be fun to kill some little twrips on the 360 thinking they're big enough to use a controller.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
Fighting games are best played on controllers or arcade pads, that's for sure. I wouldn't see myself trying to play a fighting game on a keyboard, no thanks.

The thing is, I can just connect a controller to my PC and play the games with it. I cannot just connect a keyboard to my 360 and play games with it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

and of course one thing i forgot - if devs didn't think/know the mouse was superior, why would they shaft it in games like shadowrun, gears of war, halo2, etc?

 

[CP5670]

The devs go to the consoles because there are more sales to be had there. It doesn't matter which platform is actually superior for their game.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

I still don't see why it matters...

Is kb/m superior? Of course.

Does that matter to me when I want to relax back on the couch and play TF2 with a controller against other people using controllers? Not at all.

When I want to get real competitive then I'll boot it up on the PC which is actually kinda rare in the last couple months. I did buy TF2 for both PC and 360 though.

 

[bullbert]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
This is so f-ing easy. Put a damn USB port on the 360 already, for god's sake. There's a reason this hasn't happened already and I guarantee you it's for financial reasons rather than gameplay issues.

There are USB ports on the 360.

USB ports on the 360 ***WITH*** USB support? Of course not.

 

[bullbert]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
Fighting games are best played on controllers or arcade pads, that's for sure. I wouldn't see myself trying to play a fighting game on a keyboard, no thanks.

You know what would be a totally new and innovated idea? Sell USB controllers for the PC marketplace! That way, for that one-out-of-a-100 game where the gaming interface favors a gamepad only user interface over a keyboard/mouse or keyboard/stick or keyboard/pad, the PC gamer could still fully enjoy the multiplayer aspects.

Oh wait! You say such a thing as already been sold for over a decade, and PC games have already been providing support for USB gamepads/controllers?!? Imagine that!

Remember, only MICROSOFT LICENSED multiplayer games *would* be allowed on Live. And several articles have already been written that show that the licensing fees to Microsoft can and usually exceed the entire game design budget. Even if you are willing surrender to these two expensive hit-you-in-your-wallet facts, IF Microsoft ever allows PC games to get gouged monthly/yearly for Live access and gouged daily/weekly for Live content add-ons, Microsoft *would* no doubt only allow dumbed down PC game editions to access Live so that Microsoft does not do anything that could possible endanger its only profitable aspect of the XBox franchise, namely (a) the Licensing, (b) the Live subscriptions, and (c) the Live flood of incremental add-ons.