Men who don't want kids should force women to give up baby for adoption.

[OCNewbie]

I think a woman has too much power in the situation of a pregnancy. It should be equal power. If a woman wants the baby, but the man doesn't, what can the man do (legally speaking)? Nothing.

I think a man should be able to sign away his parental rights, and therefore sign away any financial responsibilities he has for the child, permanently, if he so chooses.

There may be situations where the man says he wants the child, early on in the pregnancy, which influences the mother's decision to carry the baby to term, but then the father changes his mind after the birth, which then leaves the mother in a bind. I'm not sure what to do in such situations. Perhaps let the man sign such a document early on in the pregnancy that states clearly to the mother than she will be solely responsible for the child, but of course that isn't applicable if it's a one-night stand sorta thing, and the mother and father aren't in communication after conception.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

A good trucker always backs up before he dumps his load.

Also, if you make her swallow she can't get pregnant.

 

[Ichinisan]

OP, Ichinisan was just looking for you.

Huh? I wasn't interested in this thread at all and didn't bother to click it. My brother told me I was mentioned for some reason.

 

[teh_pwnerer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_support

Not where I live kiddo.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I think this would be the perfect solution for men who don't want to be trapped for 25+ years of giving a woman a paycheck. We all know that forcing a woman to have an abortion would have an insane amount of backlash once the religious and Conservatives get involved, so it will never pass.

Forcing that woman to give up the baby, on the other hand, ensures that she won't be able to profit for 10 minutes of work. It would also give the man some power over the baby, which he should have every right to give away if he doesn't want it.

If the woman decides to keep the baby, then, as usual, she should take 100% responsibility on it's upbringing.

What does ATOT think? Is this a better solution than trying to force an abortion?

Yeah... I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that.

If you don't want babby then wrap your little monster. If you cause babby then you deal with what you've created.

Sorry bitch, life is complicated. Deal with it.

 

[infoiltrator]

There is a contract called marriage.
"Till death do us part.." no matter how miserable.

I do not care where you live, father a child you are a financial parent till adulthood or wasted space. You should be a loving responsible parent too.

Excuses feed no children, clothe no children, shelter no child.

If you want custody and life determination love and marry first.
Otherwise you is a dick with an obligation.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Not where I live kiddo.

But now you know where we live it does.

 

[tommo123]

There is a contract called marriage.
"Till death do us part.." no matter how miserable.

I do not care where you live, father a child you are a financial parent till adulthood or wasted space. You should be a loving responsible parent too.

Excuses feed no children, clothe no children, shelter no child.

If you want custody and life determination love and marry first.
Otherwise you is a dick with an obligation.

what?

are you being a troll now? are you saying if you knock someone up that you should marry her? what kind of retarded backwards idea is that?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I think this would be the perfect solution for men who don't want to be trapped for 25+ years of giving a woman a paycheck. We all know that forcing a woman to have an abortion would have an insane amount of backlash once the religious and Conservatives get involved, so it will never pass.

Forcing that woman to give up the baby, on the other hand, ensures that she won't be able to profit for 10 minutes of work. It would also give the man some power over the baby, which he should have every right to give away if he doesn't want it.

If the woman decides to keep the baby, then, as usual, she should take 100% responsibility on it's upbringing.

What does ATOT think? Is this a better solution than trying to force an abortion?

I think it's a better solution to realize that it's not about a woman profiting from it but rather about a father being forced to provide for his own child.

But hey, that would make sense and we can have none of that in idiotville!

 

[tommo123]

the only relevant point i've seen here is that a woman can give up her baby and have no more responsibilities. a man should be able to do the same. i agree with that in principle.

personally, if i knocked someone up i wouldn't see it as my kid (i didn't choose to have a kid - she chose not to have an abortion) :whiste:. i would have no emotional attachment to it or want anything to do with the mother or the child.

 

[sixone]

No one else has control over your sperm. Use it or lose it.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

the only relevant point i've seen here is that a woman can give up her baby and have no more responsibilities. a man should be able to do the same. i agree with that in principle.

personally, if i knocked someone up i wouldn't see it as my kid (i didn't choose to have a kid - she chose not to have an abortion) :whiste:. i would have no emotional attachment to it or want anything to do with the mother or the child.

I'm not sure about how it works in the US but that isn't how it works in the UK. (unless you refer to abortions but if you want equality there without understanding the differences that makes complete equality impossible you can always argue that men should be able to abort a fetus WHEN THEY GET PREGNANT).

In the UK the father has the same rights as the mother to the born child provided that he claims them.

You certainly have the right not to see the child as your own, that doesn't change anything with regards to the child's rights though, you're still the parent and you will still have to provide for it. In the UK, if the child is born and the mother feels like you do then the father is the first choice and the mother will pay child support for the child, i don't know if it's the same in the US though.

 

[tommo123]

me either, but i'm a brit too