memory? value? non value?

calam63

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I expect the valueram to be slower but by how much? is it going to be a stupid buy if you don't spend the extra to get the non value ram?
 

SSibalNom

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id like to know as well.. i got corsair value 512 pc3200 for 60AR, but would it be worth it to go to XMS? or something else?
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: SSibalNom
id like to know as well.. i got corsair value 512 pc3200 for 60AR, but would it be worth it to go to XMS? or something else?

No, it just boasts higher speeds and lower timings. If you don't care for every percent of performance then you could go value.
 

PanzerIV

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mstegall, no the difference is not noticeable when used for a normal system. If you are expecting to have tight timings and OC your system then you don't want Value RAM. Kingston HyperX and Corsair XMS are for enthusiasts who try to squeeze the most out of their systems. So called Value RAM is for the average user who just needs some RAM in his/her system.
 

CrucialLabs

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Its like dumping cheap gas in your car. It will run but won't run real well, stay with quality not price. If you like your computer which I hope you do, give it good hardware and it will work for a long time, give it cheap stuff and you are asking for trouble. Are you good at troubleshooting??
 

neptunefix

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What percentage performance difference should one expect from going from 512 ram @ cl3-7-4-4 to the same amount of ram @ cl 2-6-3-3?

That is what I'm really curious about.
 

Kingofcomputer

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Kingston Valueram is not low quality, slower ram.
It's same thing as Kingston regular ram (non value).
Regular ram is pretested and mark for each name brand system, so it has money back guarantee while Valueram is for any system, no 100% compatibility guarantee.

Buying Kingston Valueram is equal to buying Crucial without going thru its memory selector.
 

WobbleWobble

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Value ram does not mean cheap generic memory.

Kingston, Corsair, Crucial, Mushkin all have their value lines. The higher end memory with low latency is not worth it in a normal machine as the difference is minimal, a percent or so in overal system performance. The higher end memory may allow you to run higher memory speeds, which will aid your overclock.
 

WobbleWobble

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Originally posted by: neptunefix
What percentage performance difference should one expect from going from 512 ram @ cl3-7-4-4 to the same amount of ram @ cl 2-6-3-3?

That is what I'm really curious about.

A percent or 2.
 

SSibalNom

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Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
Value ram does not mean cheap generic memory.

Kingston, Corsair, Crucial, Mushkin all have their value lines. The higher end memory with low latency is not worth it in a normal machine as the difference is minimal, a percent or so in overal system performance. The higher end memory may allow you to run higher memory speeds, which will aid your overclock.

so if not OC'ing, the performance difference is almost nothing?
 

someone16

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Depending on the price, if like on newegg Kingston Value is @ 87 and hyper x is at 141 then it's not worth it. 50% the price but probably only 5~% ATM performance gain.
 

Ionizer86

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No matter what, do not buy generic ram (noname ram). Value series ram from Corsair, Kingston, and Mushkin will work at stock speeds with stability and will also sometimes overclock to a bit higher than stock speed. One of the best values in Valueram is the Kingston 512MB PC2700 stick since it almost always overclocks to PC3200. In fact, some say the chips are the same as that on their PC3200 Valueram. I have mine at 2.5/4/4/11 right now, and it only cost $26 AR. Get some for yourself :)
 

Venomous

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Corsair Value PC-3200 will come stock at a timing of 2.5,3,3,11. It can easily hit 220 fsb on just about every intel/amd system.

Finding tight timing ram is damn near impossible now. Hell, even expensive XMS ram cant do tight timings and you spend nearly and arm and leg for it.

If you plan to overclock in a serious nature, consider the OCZ EB series or A-Data.