memory usage in Vista 64

[Nothinman]

I have a dual core opteron running @ 2.4ghz and 2GB corsair xms memory with dual 7900gt's and a 10krpm hdd. The performance is shit. I dont think you can expect specs higher than this for an OS.

I have a dual-core FX!60 2.6Ghz with 2G memory a single 7900GTX and some POS IDE drive for Vista and performance is fine. Granted the only thing installed is SupCom but besides crap load times caused by the POS IDE drive it's fine.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
So you have problems with more than just SuperFetch?

DRM, UAC, Aero desktop, indexing of files

All things I have no use for.

 

[Nothinman]

Even without those things Vista is still the better longterm choice. But that wasn't even the question, the question is what problems are they causing for you.

 

[boglwe]

wow, this thread really took on a new life.

 

[Owls]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Nothinman
So you have problems with more than just SuperFetch?

DRM, UAC, Aero desktop, indexing of files

All things I have no use for.

Aside from DRM, where you are given the choice of not having to use MS's WMV, you can turn the rest off.

I absolutely HATED vista in the beginning and I just ended up turning off the junk I didn't want or need. It's a human tendancy to resist change but you guys take it to a new level sometimes 🙂

 

[Modelworks]

My point though is that if I have to turn stuff off to make it more like xp then why use vista at all ?

If vista let my cpu do floating point math faster, download faster, install more memory, run multiple cpus, support more hardware, then I would have no problem with it.

The problem is, that for me, it doesn't give me anything I can't already do with xp. Everything else that has been added just gets in my way.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
Even without those things Vista is still the better longterm choice. But that wasn't even the question, the question is what problems are they causing for you.

Drm - I don't need a babysitter for my media files.

UAC - annoying to say the least, can turn it off, but why not run xp and not have to even think about it.

Aero desktop - I use applications that are opengl based. Aero is incompatible with applications like avid liquid, zbrush, maya. The companies that produce the software are not in any hurry to get things working with aero. They don't need to . People that use the apps for work don't upgrade there os just because a new one comes along. They stay with what works.

Indexing of files - not needed. We use a product called alienbrain, its far superior to anything vista has.

I think a lot of what people are basing vista usage off of is the home environment.
Vista may be ok for gaming, web , normal home task.
But in the workstation area, where you push the pc and os very hard and it has to work or you could lose money, vista is not ready.

 

[Nothinman]

Drm - I don't need a babysitter for my media files.

It's not for your media files it's for those released by someone else who wants to restrict your rights to their media. If none of your media has DRM on it then you're not affected by it's availability.

UAC - annoying to say the least, can turn it off, but why not run xp and not have to even think about it.

You only get UAC prompts when doing things that require more rights than you have so once you're setup you should see them fairly rarely. And running unpriviledged with UAC enabled gets you things like IE priviledge separation that aren't available in XP.

Aero desktop - I use applications that are opengl based. Aero is incompatible with applications like avid liquid, zbrush, maya. The companies that produce the software are not in any hurry to get things working with aero. They don't need to . People that use the apps for work don't upgrade there os just because a new one comes along. They stay with what works.

Yea, Aero is preetty superfluous but compositing desktops are all the rage right now so you can't glame MS for releasing one.

But in the workstation area, where you push the pc and os very hard and it has to work or you could lose money, vista is not ready.

But you haven't demonstrated that Vista's being a problem besides SuperFetch not playing well with your (not normal at all) workload and that's pretty easily disabled AFAIK. Your problems with DRM and UAC are completely orthognal to whether you can "push the pc and os very hard" to do your job.

 

[Modelworks]

My point is what is vista going to do for me that I can't already do ?

 

[Nothinman]

Right this moment probably not much, but down the road it'll be what everyone's targetting so you'll have to go there eventually if you stick with Windows.

 

[heymrdj]

Have you tried Vista on a Workstation? I tried Vista Business edition with image editing (images range from 500MB all the way to 8GB) and I found no issue with prefetch. I still got the speed of Vista, with the "performace" of XP Pro. I found Vista Business to be better. If you got a 7200RPM HD and good ram, DDRII667 and up, you won't see a problem.

 

[Modelworks]

yeah, I tried really hard to like vista.
But in the end it didn't bring anything new to the table and I was having to do things to work around it.

The problem with prefetch isn't that you can't work with large files , its that in the work I do, cg graphics and rendering, you can be rendering a scene and the pc will use 500mb for two secs, and then 10 seconds later use 2gb, then 3 secs later be down to 500mb again.

Its similar to reading and writing a lot of files, but your doing it with memory rather than hard drive.

 

[SandEagle]

so far i've had no issues with Vista. performance seems to be fine. hesitant at first, but now i actually prefer it over XP