Memory Recommendation for Z77?

crazymonkeyzero

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Can someone please tell me what would be the best compatible 2x8gb memory kit I could buy for this z77board The cpu I am going to be pairing with it is the Intel Core i7 3770K, if that is a factor which may affect the memory choice. Thanks for any advice on the matter. BTW, buying parts from newegg/ US dollars.
 
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Ken g6

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I see you want the best, but best for what?

Best for the money? Take this $80 Mushkin set. Better speed and timings don't help Sandy Bridge much, and presumably don't help Ivy much either.

Best for all-out speed, regardless of the cost? These Geil modules look interesting, and still low-profile 1.5V. But like I said they probably won't help much, and probably aren't worth the price.

Best for a small case that could overheat? How about these Mushkin 1.35V modules? Same speed potential, worse timings, but less power and heat.
 

crazymonkeyzero

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Actually, this conflict brings up another interesting question: What do you think you need 16GB for?

I was needing the memory to run some software from work which I have witnessed using up to 12gb on task manager, with all other programs closed. So I figured 16gb would be good as it would pretty much max out the mini itx board, and I won't have to worry about upgrading any time soon for other things such as video encoding, photoshop, CAD...etc.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone, but I still have some fundamental questions.

1. Based on comments it seems going above ddr3 1600 will not seem to make much of a noticeable difference in speed for ivy/z77?

2. Will dual channel memory help speed? For example, would a dual channel kit of ddr3 1600 run faster than two separate modules of ddr3 1866?

3. What does voltage do for memory? Is lower voltage always better? I recall some corsair dominators running at 1.6+volts, aren't they renowned to be some of the best stuff on the market?
 

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3. What does voltage do for memory? Is lower voltage always better?


If I were shopping for high quality memory, I would use the following parameters as a guide...

* DDR3 rated at 1.5v or lower
* DDR3 rated at the lowest CAS I could afford
* DDR3 rated at the highest clock speed I could afford
* Limit the scope of my purchease to G.Skill, Mushkin, Corsair XMS or Crucial (non-Ballistix)

While not wavering on the voltage point, I would balance the other issues with my budget.

Remember kids my goal is not pure "benchmarking" performance, but simply finding the highest quality memory I can afford. ^_^
The only reason I pay a premium for low latency, high speed, low voltage memory is...
Quality and quality alone.
1.5v is the JEDEC DDR3 voltage standard.
Stay with 1.5v or less if you can afford it..
:colbert: What he said.
 

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I was needing the memory to run some software from work which I have witnessed using up to 12gb on task manager, with all other programs closed. So I figured 16gb would be good as it would pretty much max out the mini itx board, and I won't have to worry about upgrading any time soon for other things such as video encoding, photoshop, CAD...etc.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone, but I still have some fundamental questions.

1. Based on comments it seems going above ddr3 1600 will not seem to make much of a noticeable difference in speed for ivy/z77?

Unless you run benchmarks for a living, any speed between 1066 and 2133 doesn't really make a difference on Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. 1333 and 1600 are the most cost effective speeds right now.

2. Will dual channel memory help speed? For example, would a dual channel kit of ddr3 1600 run faster than two separate modules of ddr3 1866?

Yes, running in dual channel mode effectively makes the memory twice as fast for large transfers. A "dual channel kit" is nothing more than a pair of identical modules sold together. If you bought two of the same model DIMM individually, they would work in dual channel mode just fine.

3. What does voltage do for memory? Is lower voltage always better?

With any integrated circuit, using more voltage allows you to push the chip harder (higher clocks, lower latency, etc.). That being said, chips are only rated for a certain voltage and going beyond that will damage them (how long it takes depends on the chip and the voltage).

The reason this is an issue for memory is that the memory controller on the CPU and the DIMM are directly connected to each other and have to run at the same voltage. Nehalem and newer Intel memory controllers aren't rated beyond 1.5V.

Lower voltage means lower power draw, which I suppose is always better, but it really doesn't matter too terribly much when you're only talking about 2 DIMMs.

I recall some corsair dominators running at 1.6+volts, aren't they renowned to be some of the best stuff on the market?

Like most Corsair gear, they are good-quality (but not spectacular) parts backed up by a high-powered marketing engine. They're perfectly a-OK at the right price, but that usually only happens when you catch them on sale. The actual best stuff on the market is the Samsung kit linked earlier.
 

crazymonkeyzero

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Thanks a bunch mfenn and Blain! That explains a lot and helps me set some guidelines while shopping for the memory. I will see If I can find the recommend Samsung kit, if not, I will probably settle for something else similar. :D
 

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I will see If I can find the recommend Samsung kit, if not, I will probably settle for something else similar. :D

The Samsung 1.35v RAM is only available up to 4GB per stick, so you would need 4 sticks (or 2 kits) to hit your 16GB. No big deal if you know you'll never upgrade the RAM (or are going socket 2011) but otherwise consider a 2x8GB kit like you mentioned in the OP.

Also, what version of Windows will you be using? Windows 7 Home Premium supports 16GB RAM max, and if you ever go past that you will need to upgrade Windows.
 

crazymonkeyzero

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The Samsung 1.35v RAM is only available up to 4GB per stick, so you would need 4 sticks (or 2 kits) to hit your 16GB. No big deal if you know you'll never upgrade the RAM (or are going socket 2011) but otherwise consider a 2x8GB kit like you mentioned in the OP.

Also, what version of Windows will you be using? Windows 7 Home Premium supports 16GB RAM max, and if you ever go past that you will need to upgrade Windows.

I will probably never need more than 16gb, and will be purchasing win7 home 64bit. I have already made a 32gb lga 2011 build with win7 pro, and it was complete overkill since the highest memory usage I got was 12gb... but it allowed me to test all my software and find a sweet spot for my upcoming one. So I really wouldn't mind filling up all 4 slots, it it's quality memory.
 

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I will probably never need more than 16gb, and will be purchasing win7 home 64bit. I have already made a 32gb lga 2011 build with win7 pro, and it was complete overkill since the highest memory usage I got was 12gb... but it allowed me to test all my software and find a sweet spot for my upcoming one. So I really wouldn't mind filling up all 4 slots, it it's quality memory.

In that case, I'd grab two of the Samsung kits. They're only $40 AP right now.