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memory performance

giorgione

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Hello. I have a few questions about RAM. Let's assume dimms with the following properties:
466MHz 3-4-4-8-1
400MHz 2-2-2-6-1

a) Which RAM will perform better when used in a 400DDR motherboard without overclokging? The one with the lower latency settings?

b) Can the 400MHz RAM be used for overclocking? To what limit can it be pushed?

I'm trying to figure out what RAM to get. I might want to experiment with overclocking...
 
I'm trying to figure out what RAM to get. I might want to experiment with overclocking...

If overclocking is a consideration, get the 466mhz stuff. I would guess that the 466 memory could run at pretty decent timings at 400mhz. That's some expensive memory you're looking at...are you sure it's not overkill?
 
Originally posted by: giorgione
Hello. I have a few questions about RAM. Let's assume dimms with the following properties:
466MHz 3-4-4-8-1
400MHz 2-2-2-6-1

a) Which RAM will perform better when used in a 400DDR motherboard without overclokging? The one with the lower latency settings?

b) Can the 400MHz RAM be used for overclocking? To what limit can it be pushed?

I'm trying to figure out what RAM to get. I might want to experiment with overclocking...

In regards to question A, it would depend on the motherboard chipset you're using. Most nVIDIA and Intel motherboards perform best when the FSB of the CPU and the speed of the memory are run in synchronous mode. Therefore, you might not see any improvements by using a faster memory module such as the 466MHz one.

In that case, it would be better to use the DDR400 module with a lower and faster timings.

For VIA-based motherboards, however, faster memory does increase the overall speed of your system although the memory is being run in asynchronous mode.

So, it all depends on the type of motherboard you're using.

For question B, the overclockability of a DDR400 module would depend on the manufacturer and the type of cooling you have. If you stick on some copper heatsinks, you could probably squeeze out more speed out of the DDR400 memory. Also, if quality memory is being used, then you're chances of reaching a higher limit from your memory will be increased.

So, it's best to avoid cheap, generic RAMs and go for the big brand names like Corsair, Kingston, and OCZ. I think you should stay from Geil because their quality has not been consistent as the others'.
 
Thanks to all who responded. I will buy 2 x 1 GB kits of Kingston HyperX @ 400DDR. They currently have a promotion to get 1 kit at $206.

I also found an article on pcstats.com that explains MHz vs. timings.

Indeed the 466DDR RAM would be overkill for me. Way too expensive to get 2GB of it...
 
I just got the 512mb kit. It is good stuff, I swapped it out for my crucial 512 pc2700 stick and there is a significant difference. The lower timings and dual channel really makes a difference.

Oh yeah, I've heard that the pc3500 stuff they have is just the pc3200 with more relaxed timings. So, if you ever decide you want to overclock, you can just relax the timings a little bit to achieve a higher clock speed.
 
Originally posted by: JimRaynor
I just got the 512mb kit. It is good stuff, I swapped it out for my crucial 512 pc2700 stick and there is a significant difference. The lower timings and dual channel really makes a difference.

Oh yeah, I've heard that the pc3500 stuff they have is just the pc3200 with more relaxed timings. So, if you ever decide you want to overclock, you can just relax the timings a little bit to achieve a higher clock speed.

What's PC4000 then? PC3200 w/ super-relaxed timings? Your statement regarding PC3500 refers to older RAMs. Current PC3500/4000 have faster chips.
You must be using an integrated video if double channel is making a real difference.
 
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