Memory for Vista

dlmartin53

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:confused: What is the right amount of memory for Vista? I just got a Gateway from CompUSA, going out of business closeout, it has 2 GB and from what I understand that is the right amount for 32 bit Vista. Have not really kept up with this Vista stuff but the deal was to good to pass up. I was going to build again but this system has 90% of what I wanted for 300-400 less than I was pricing it out at online sources. And I didn't have to do all the work either.

But I digress, I do some gaming, not the intense shooters, more of the RTS type. I have already seem a vast improvment over my old system, but I just wanted to be in the sweet spot when it comes to memroy.

Donald
 

Nothinman

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There's no right amount, it all depends on what kind of load you plan on putting on the machine. But memory is so cheap that there's no reason not to get at least 2G right now which will probably be fine as long as your games don't require more memory.
 

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Yeah RAM is ridiculously cheap these days. A friend of mine picked up 4GB of Kingston from newegg for $99 last week to convert a $300 workstation he had lying around into a Hyper-V host.
 

VinDSL

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Originally posted by: dlmartin53
What is the right amount of memory for Vista?

I have already seem a vast improvement over my old system, but I just wanted to be in the sweet spot...

Trick question...

"Sweet spot" usually means, the best bang for the buck, e.g. something for nothing, however...

As memory prices keep dropping, the "sweet spot" becomes a moving target!

Personally, I believe the "hot spot" for Vista x86 is 4GB - the most you can run - and at least a 4GB ReadyBoost drive.

Soooo, the answer becomes self-limiting...

From the sound of it - Gateway - CompUSA - going out of business closeout - 90% - 300-400 less... you found YOUR "sweet spot"! ;)

And, please, don't take this the wrong way...
 

QuixoticOne

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2GB of RAM for Vista 32 is typically very usable for every day light computer uses.

If you use one or more moderately demanding applications with substantial amounts of data involved, you can EASILY reach a point where you'll see substantial slow-downs due to memory exhaustion.
Examples might be:
* typically running a few dozen browser windows at once.
* using something like photoshop to edit big images with lots of layers, etc.
* using outlook with huge email repositories.
* copying / virus scanning lots of data while you're doing things like office applications in the foreground.
* keeping some big office applications open while you're running outlook, a few web browser windows, having a few PDFs/documents open, playing some MP3s, etc. The combination of a few things like that can slow you down.

...but for light / casual use and doing mostly one or two thing at a time, 2GB is going to perform OK.

On the other hand, DDR2 memory is DIRT CHEAP (i.e. almost as cheap as it ever has been or ever will likely be on average). If you HAVE one or more UNUSED slots for more memory, $40 will get you an 2GB DIMM you can add in to your existing 2, that's a pretty cheap upgrade and will be about the best bang-for-the-buck future-proofing and performance boost you can do with an existing system like that.

Personally if I think I'd like to keep the PC in use for more than a couple of years (either for myself or eventually for use by a family member or whatever), I'd say 2GB will start to be enough of a limiting factor that spending $40 or $80 or so to add another 2GB or 4GB is well worth the investment for payoffs that'll be present every day for years to come. Basically it seems worth it to me (at these fire sale RAM prices) to MAX OUT the memory in ANY PC you think will be a workhorse for you.

If you have only 2 memory slots would I take out and throw away new/good RAM JUST to upgrade to 4GB? Well probably not unless I knew I'd be using it heavily enough that 2GB would waste lots of my time and limit my work. Maybe if I had another PC of mine or a family member's that the taken-out 2GB could be used in for a much needed upgrade or something then it'd seem like a good overall deal without wastefulness.

Since you like buying things at good deals on sale, I'd submit that's exactly the situation for DDR2-800 and DDR2-667 memory right now, so even if you can't use the meory for THIS PC, buying some of the best deals on quality but cheap 1GB or 2GB capacity sticks NOW for future use personally or as gift upgrades for family members or whatever isn't a bad idea.

Any PC that's expected to have modern applications on it deserves more than 1GB of memory, and 4GB ideally for power-users, so plan accordingly for what makes sense for your computing needs, budget, and overall plans for computers in the household for the next 2-3 years.

 

zig3695

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i ran 2gb on my desktop with vista since day one rtm. i have recently added another 1GB and i hardly notice a difference at all. i use this machine for everything from internet to games to video encoding too. fact is 2gb in vista is absolutely ok.. of course if you want the best gaming performance you will want as much ram as possible, but again 2gb is PLENTY for vista.
 

corkyg

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
There's no right amount, it all depends on what kind of load you plan on putting on the machine. But memory is so cheap that there's no reason not to get at least 2G right now which will probably be fine as long as your games don't require more memory.
QFT! I have 2 Vista systems - each with 2 GB. One is a laptop - and putting in 4 GB is not a ganga deal. Everything works fine with 2 GB.

 

bsobel

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Personally, I believe the "hot spot" for Vista x86 is 4GB - the most you can run - and at least a 4GB ReadyBoost drive.

Actually, 4GB is the limit since they presume FAT formatted drives. They claim you get ~8 since they compress the pages...

 

KeypoX

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What games use 2gig of memory? I have vista with 2gig and it is more than enough. My laptop had 1 gig in it, i put 2 gig in but regret doing so as i have seen zero improvement.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Actually, 4GB is the limit since they presume FAT formatted drives. They claim you get ~8 since they compress the pages...

That sounds familiar. :Q

 

JustaGeek

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Originally posted by: KeypoX
What games use 2gig of memory? I have vista with 2gig and it is more than enough. My laptop had 1 gig in it, i put 2 gig in but regret doing so as i have seen zero improvement.

Quake 4 on Ultra High Quality settings @1680x1050, even in XP x86.

STALKER.

Supreme Commander.


And my laptop was sluggish with Vista HP x86 and 1GB od RAM.
 

dlmartin53

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Thanks for all the replies. I have not had much time with the system yet. Played WOTRWK version and it is much better than my old system and don't seem to have slowdown issues. I dont even know yet if it has empty slots but with ram so low buying more for a future upgd is a good idea.

Again thanks for the help.

Donald
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: bsobel
Actually, 4GB is the limit since they presume FAT formatted drives. They claim you get ~8 since they compress the pages...

That sounds familiar. :Q

Oh shit deja vu all over again

"When Windows 95 was launched, it was widely reported that software for the operating system would be "memory hungry", requiring at least 4 megabytes of RAM and preferably 8"

LMAO change a few words and it sounds like Vista's release :p
 

n7

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1 GB bare minimum.
2 GB recommended.
4 GB for high end.
8+ GB for extreme awesomeness.


:p
 

bigi

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1 GB bare minimum. 2 GB recommended. 4 GB for high end. 8+ GB for extreme awesomeness.

Once you get out of kindergarden world, you should try:

2GB - Low end.
4GB - Recommended.
8GB - HiFi

and of course 64bit OS.
 

VinDSL

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Oh shit deja vu all over again

"When Windows 95 was launched, it was widely reported that software for the operating system would be "memory hungry", requiring at least 4 megabytes of RAM and preferably 8"

LMAO change a few words and it sounds like Vista's release :p

Vista isn't your Dad's OS, whose probably been dead for 20 years, judging by your sig and comments... :D

Sorry! I don't mean any disrespect to geriatric members, but Vista really IS different!

Vista really DOES require more memory than OSes from the last century... ;)