Memoirs of a Geisha...showing at 3 theaters?

[Remy XO]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo


they weren't pissed off about last samuri. 117 million box office in japan.

most of the anger is from the chinese anyways. they are the ones still rioting over the japanese after all.

AND they actually casted FAMOUS japanese actors to play the japanese rolls. They easily couldv'e done the same for Memoirs of a Geisha.

 

[0roo0roo]

yea, they somehow deluded themselves into thinking those chinese actors are box office draw.... not in america😛 not in any significant way.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Remy XO

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo


they weren't pissed off about last samuri. 117 million box office in japan.

most of the anger is from the chinese anyways. they are the ones still rioting over the japanese after all.

AND they actually casted FAMOUS japanese actors to play the japanese rolls. They easily couldv'e done the same for Memoirs of a Geisha.

i at least know who zang zii is, i cant name a single japanese actress, or actor for that matter

 

[Remy XO]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yea, they somehow deluded themselves into thinking those chinese actors are box office draw.... not in america😛 not in any significant way.

arent the chinese mad that their top actresses are playing rolls as a japanese geisha and "almost" making them look good?

 

[codeyf]

Several of the (fairly) main characters were born in Japan:

The Baron - Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa - Tokyo
Nobu - Koji Yakusho - Nagasaki
Sayuri (Narration) - Shizuko Hoshi
Pumpkin - Youki Kudoh - Tokyo
Chariman - Ken Watanabe - Niigata
Mother - Kaori Momoi - Tokyo

There were other smaller roles as well. There were only a couple Chinese actors that played main parts:

Sayuri - Ziyi Zhang - Beijing
Hatsumomo - Li Gong - Liaoning Province
Auntie - Tsai Chin - Shanghai

Mechelle Yeoh is from Malaysia, and had the only other notable "main" part of Mameha.

So I dunno what the Japanese folk are all pissy about.

 

[0roo0roo]

well atlesat in that pacific time story u hear there are certain sentiments of them being traitors for taking the roles. looking good? i guess. sounding so absurd that you cringe destroys it all though.

box office is pretty bad http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=memoirsofageisha.htm

 

[StormRider]

I'm Chinese and I must admit that it does bother me to have 3 Chinese women play these parts. Not because I find it offensive but I can tell these women are Chinese (from their looks) and it ruins the realism. It would be like casting Stallone as an Irish potato farmer. It just sticks out.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Remy XO

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I think your missing the point. American's don't care, and Hollywood least of all. If the Japanese don't like it they don't have to watch it. Its the same way I feel about anything related to someone getting pissed off about something else. The Catholics have no right to complain about Southpark, and the Japanese can make their own Geisha movies and simply not watch our rediculous intrepretation of their ancient "whateverthefvck".

It wasn't long ago when I last read about the Japanese being pissed off about another one of our movies. The Last Samarai. "How can American scum make Hero in Samarai movie a white man." Errrr, cuz it was made for American's by American's you douche. When will the Japanese follow the Bollywood solution and just make there own films, I know Hollywood is trash and when I don't like it I don't watch it. I have a lot more right to complain though. The rest of the world can STFU and make their own damn films if they don't like ours.

no i gues you're missing the point. It was a movie about a japanese cultural figure played by chinese FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I'm not disagreeing with everything you are saying but you cant blame them for being mad about the film. Just like if the japanese made a film about anything historical chinese then went ahead and showed it for the American media. Hell im korean and If the japanese or chinese made a movie about a korean historical figure for hollywood I sure as hell would be pist. If you're going to show a movie about some other countries historical figure to another country you sure as hell better get it right. Just like if a German guy made a historically incorrect movie about General Patton in world war 2 specifically for say a Asian country ofcourse they would say something.

No I wouldn't care if they did that. As an American, they could portray Thomas Jefferson as a black man for all I care. I simply wouldn't care, the film would lose all validity that way any way. Although that comparisson isn't even close to the same thing. For instance, say Jefferson was Irish (I don't know if he is or what, just using it as an example) and they had a Scottish or Brittish actor play his part. Why would it matter as long as that person was best suited for the role in the eyes of the director of the film. Its not like Mel Gibson is Irish, but he was awesome in Braveheart. I didn't hear the Irish yelling that Mel Gibson is Australian and should burn in hell for playing an Irish man. And besides Gibson probably has some Irish in him. I could name COUNTLESS examples like this.

Your asian so you have a different view on it, perhaps your full blooded Korean, what do I know. But American's are all muts, (as in they all have blood from everywhere) they don't see race as that important at all - at least the younger generation such as my self don't. I think Ziyi Zhang was probably the best choice just because I think she's hot, but thats all I care about as a movie goer living in America. Not that she is Chinese. And how the hell do you know that she doesn't have some Japanese blood any way. Probably a thousand Romeo and Juliet type stories that come out of both countries, Japanese falling for Chinese - yet they hide their relationship out of fear from the family. She may not even know it herself because of those secrets. So would it be different if she did have some japanese blood?? I don't see how, it just doesn't matter.

I don't mean to sound like a naive white boy saying all Asians look alike, but for a simple matter of fact - a lot of them do. But I'm not racist, and I couldn't care less what race the other actors are either. And even more so, I couldn't care less how Japan reacts to the film and neither does Hollywood.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: codeyf
Several of the (fairly) main characters were born in Japan:

The Baron - Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa - Tokyo
Nobu - Koji Yakusho - Nagasaki
Sayuri (Narration) - Shizuko Hoshi
Pumpkin - Youki Kudoh - Tokyo
Chariman - Ken Watanabe - Niigata
Mother - Kaori Momoi - Tokyo

There were other smaller roles as well. There were only a couple Chinese actors that played main parts:

Sayuri - Ziyi Zhang - Beijing
Hatsumomo - Li Gong - Liaoning Province
Auntie - Tsai Chin - Shanghai

Mechelle Yeoh is from Malaysia, and had the only other notable "main" part of Mameha.

So I dunno what the Japanese folk are all pissy about.

it probably doens't help when the country from where they are from hates you,.

 

[Papagayo]

Does it have machine guns?
Gotta have machine guns to be a good movie..

 

[Remy XO]

Originally posted by: AMDZen


No I wouldn't care if they did that. As an American, they could portray Thomas Jefferson as a black man for all I care. I simply wouldn't care, the film would lose all validity that way any way. Although that comparisson isn't even close to the same thing. For instance, say Jefferson was Irish (I don't know if he is or what, just using it as an example) and they had a Scottish or Brittish actor play his part. Why would it matter as long as that person was best suited for the role in the eyes of the director of the film. Its not like Mel Gibson is Irish, but he was awesome in Braveheart. I didn't hear the Irish yelling that Mel Gibson is Australian and should burn in hell for playing an Irish man. And besides Gibson probably has some Irish in him. I could name COUNTLESS examples like this.

Your asian so you have a different view on it, perhaps your full blooded Korean, what do I know. But American's are all muts, (as in they all have blood from everywhere) they don't see race as that important at all - at least the younger generation such as my self don't. I think Ziyi Zhang was probably the best choice just because I think she's hot, but thats all I care about as a movie goer living in America. Not that she is Chinese. And how the hell do you know that she doesn't have some Japanese blood any way. Probably a thousand Romeo and Juliet type stories that come out of both countries, Japanese falling for Chinese - yet they hide their relationship out of fear from the family. She may not even know it herself because of those secrets. So would it be different if she did have some japanese blood?? I don't see how, it just doesn't matter.

I don't mean to sound like a naive white boy saying all Asians look alike, but for a simple matter of fact - a lot of them do. But I'm not racist, and I couldn't care less what race the other actors are either. And even more so, I couldn't care less how Japan reacts to the film and neither does Hollywood.

Oh Im sorry, for some reason I thought you were chinese from your first few posts. Then yeah, you should'nt have a worry in the world about the casting. This is just an asian issue that has nothing to do with American people it is just that something happened just 50 years ago that something small like this will bring up some tension. Im sure if Austrailia mass murdered, raped, enslaved and occupied the Irish, sure as hell they wouldnt want Mel Gibson playing William Wallace and the other way around.

 

[salt9876]

crappy movie i presume

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: OS
i saw this last week, i liked it. ziyi zhang is beautiful.

She's more like a chihuahua.

 

[PHiuR]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

No I wouldn't care if they did that. As an American, they could portray Thomas Jefferson as a black man for all I care. I simply wouldn't care, the film would lose all validity that way any way. Although that comparisson isn't even close to the same thing. For instance, say Jefferson was Irish (I don't know if he is or what, just using it as an example) and they had a Scottish or Brittish actor play his part. Why would it matter as long as that person was best suited for the role in the eyes of the director of the film. Its not like Mel Gibson is Irish, but he was awesome in Braveheart. I didn't hear the Irish yelling that Mel Gibson is Australian and should burn in hell for playing an Irish man. And besides Gibson probably has some Irish in him. I could name COUNTLESS examples like this.

Your asian so you have a different view on it, perhaps your full blooded Korean, what do I know. But American's are all muts, (as in they all have blood from everywhere) they don't see race as that important at all - at least the younger generation such as my self don't. I think Ziyi Zhang was probably the best choice just because I think she's hot, but thats all I care about as a movie goer living in America. Not that she is Chinese. And how the hell do you know that she doesn't have some Japanese blood any way. Probably a thousand Romeo and Juliet type stories that come out of both countries, Japanese falling for Chinese - yet they hide their relationship out of fear from the family. She may not even know it herself because of those secrets. So would it be different if she did have some japanese blood?? I don't see how, it just doesn't matter.

I don't mean to sound like a naive white boy saying all Asians look alike, but for a simple matter of fact - a lot of them do. But I'm not racist, and I couldn't care less what race the other actors are either. And even more so, I couldn't care less how Japan reacts to the film and neither does Hollywood.

With that said, they're just going to keep making horrible movies with "beautiful" women and huge explosions for Americans because so many Americans think like you. There is more to movies then just georgous women on the big screen.