Meghan McCain on abortion: "Republicans don't like to discuss or deal with things they think are wrong or immoral."

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Personally, I would like to see the Republican party marginalized, to make room for a socially progressive yet fiscally conservative third party. I do NOT want the Bible-thumping retards having a major say in American politics.

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You are thumbsing up but that shit is impossible.

How is that impossible? That seems like the lower-case libertarian position in a nutshell.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I agree with what she is saying about birth control and abstinence only education. It is time the party drops the abstinence only education. They need to be taught in tandom.

And I say we go one step further and give them a full course on the psychology of sex. I took a 200 level class in college that dealt with the psychology of sex, stds, and yes different positions.

After a month of learning about all the shit one can catch from banging random people. Free internet pr0n never looked so good!

Microbiology in high school is good enough for that.

My Microbiology text book had...
A penis with syphilis
A penis with gonorrhea
A vagina with active Herpes Simplex Virus
A vagina with genital warts
and several pictures of penis/groin area with buboes.

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
ProfJohn

And your salary is calculated with consideration of the tax burden on it. Your employer is likely to only pay you a little more than what it thinks is the minimum that you will stay for. If you had no taxes, you would be paid far less.

Wow that is absolutely false.

Explain how, I'm serious. It seems reasonable to me, the company is going to aim to pay the minimum to keep you on board. If your cost of living is lower due to paying no taxes, why would they pay you the same salary? Would everyones salary rise as a whole, thus you would stay the same? If you were getting paid 40% less but weren't paying 40% in taxes, than doesn't that really not affect anything?

Not trying to be an ass, someone explain this to me.

 

[Kadarin]

Updating this thread to point out stuff you probably already know: That two prominent Republicans, Mike Huckabee and Dick Cheney, have both come out stating that the Republican party should not "compromise its values" or "go moderate".

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Updating this thread to point out stuff you probably already know: That two prominent Republicans, Mike Huckabee and Dick Cheney, have both come out stating that the Republican party should not "compromise its values" or "go moderate".

Doesn't Cheney compromises his values with his moderate position on gay marriage and other gay rights? What a hypocrite.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
ProfJohn

And your salary is calculated with consideration of the tax burden on it. Your employer is likely to only pay you a little more than what it thinks is the minimum that you will stay for. If you had no taxes, you would be paid far less.

Wow that is absolutely false.

Explain how, I'm serious. It seems reasonable to me, the company is going to aim to pay the minimum to keep you on board. If your cost of living is lower due to paying no taxes, why would they pay you the same salary? Would everyones salary rise as a whole, thus you would stay the same? If you were getting paid 40% less but weren't paying 40% in taxes, than doesn't that really not affect anything?

Not trying to be an ass, someone explain this to me.

Employers don't give a damn what your net is. Income taxes are your expense, not your employers. If you have enough deductions to negate your income tax completely, does your employer cut your salary? Employers will pay what a job is worth. How you spend your money is not their concern.

 

[Siddhartha]

Does the GOP have enough room for people who are pro-choice or in general people who do not agree with the Religious Right?

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
ProfJohn

And your salary is calculated with consideration of the tax burden on it. Your employer is likely to only pay you a little more than what it thinks is the minimum that you will stay for. If you had no taxes, you would be paid far less.

Wow that is absolutely false.

Explain how, I'm serious. It seems reasonable to me, the company is going to aim to pay the minimum to keep you on board. If your cost of living is lower due to paying no taxes, why would they pay you the same salary? Would everyones salary rise as a whole, thus you would stay the same? If you were getting paid 40% less but weren't paying 40% in taxes, than doesn't that really not affect anything?

Not trying to be an ass, someone explain this to me.

Employers don't give a damn what your net is. Income taxes are your expense, not your employers. If you have enough deductions to negate your income tax completely, does your employer cut your salary? Employers will pay what a job is worth. How you spend your money is not their concern.

I agree that employers will pay you what the job is worth, but think of all the factors that influence that. Cost of living varies greatly by location. It seems reasonable to me that when calculating the value of your work they will figure in how much you will pay to taxes.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
ProfJohn

And your salary is calculated with consideration of the tax burden on it. Your employer is likely to only pay you a little more than what it thinks is the minimum that you will stay for. If you had no taxes, you would be paid far less.

Wow that is absolutely false.

Explain how, I'm serious. It seems reasonable to me, the company is going to aim to pay the minimum to keep you on board. If your cost of living is lower due to paying no taxes, why would they pay you the same salary? Would everyones salary rise as a whole, thus you would stay the same? If you were getting paid 40% less but weren't paying 40% in taxes, than doesn't that really not affect anything?

Not trying to be an ass, someone explain this to me.

Employers don't give a damn what your net is. Income taxes are your expense, not your employers. If you have enough deductions to negate your income tax completely, does your employer cut your salary? Employers will pay what a job is worth. How you spend your money is not their concern.

I agree that employers will pay you what the job is worth, but think of all the factors that influence that. Cost of living varies greatly by location. It seems reasonable to me that when calculating the value of your work they will figure in how much you will pay to taxes.

Because of taxes say to the employee every dollar they make is only really worth 75 cents. The employer doesn't care, every dollar they pay out to an employee is a dollar. Taxes do ultimately effect the wage scale, but by the wage employees will work for, not the wage employers are looking to pay.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
eskimo, the Federal government takes around 20% of every dollar I make.

And ALL government spending in this country takes about 40 cents of every dollar made.

And if you believe some people the cost of regulations and government policies mean that nearly half of every dollar made in this country goes either to the government directly or is spent in order to comply with some government regulation.

PJ,

The items that the govt has created with that 20% has enabled you to make 2000% more than what you would have ever made if there was not the infrastructure and programs in place that have enabled business to operate in the manner that they have.

But if you are willing to go back to a time where roads were as long as those willing to cut through the forest made them, where you could get an education if your family were only of a "ruling" or "elite" class.....have at it.

Me? I'm more than willing to realize that the small amount I pay in taxes comes back to me exponentially in the end.

But that's just me. I'm more of a realist than an idealist. While I can understand and appreciate the rational for 0% taxes and a host of other items, I'm not so jaded to think that it is even a remote possibility so make the most of what is truly there.