Megadeth Fans

[KingofFah]

If you stopped checking the website after Dave had his accident, you may not know that Dave is healing according to the Doctors' projections.

They have released a new CD (Compilation to keep their contract I assume). Dave said this on the megadeth site:

I would like to say thanks to everyone for supporting the band, for your understanding of my position and the decision I had to make, for all of your encouragement while I was healing, and rest assured that you haven?t heard the last of Megadeth or Dave Mustaine.

Read the whole thing here.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: KingofFah
If you stopped checking the website after Dave had his accident, you may not know that Dave is healing according to the Doctors' projections.

They have released a new CD (Compilation to keep their contract I assume). Dave said this on the megadeth site:

I would like to say thanks to everyone for supporting the band, for your understanding of my position and the decision I had to make, for all of your encouragement while I was healing, and rest assured that you haven?t heard the last of Megadeth or Dave Mustaine.

Read the whole thing here.

What injury did DM suffer? I'm too lazy to look it up on google

 

[Johnnie]

An MTV report published immediately after the split was announced suggested that Mustaine's injury was caused during a stint at a rehab in Texas. How was the injury sustained, and did it occur, as some had suggested, as part of a suicide attempt?

found this....still looking

Rolling Stone article

CNN article

 

[Aceshigh]

<- Another old Megadeth fan who doesn't know the story behind Dave's injury or the break up of the band.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: Johnnie

An MTV report published immediately after the split was announced suggested that Mustaine's injury was caused during a stint at a rehab in Texas. How was the injury sustained, and did it occur, as some had suggested, as part of a suicide attempt?

found this....still looking

Rolling Stone article

Still looks like speculation concerning suicide, but thanks for posting the link, I hope you find more as I'm

 

[Johnnie]

Mustaine, 40, hurt his arm and hand in early January, suffering severe nerve damage. In a statement released Wednesday, Mustaine did not specify how the injury occurred, and his publicist, Chip Adams, said he did not know.

From CNN

 

[KingofFah]

No one knows for sure, but it is suggested that Dave had a relapse. He had been off drugs for 10 years. I just searched and came back to one of my favorite megadeth sites. I am reading it as I post. Hope it gives you all the info you need.
Linky

 

[tcsenter]

I thought he injured it playing basketball? That was a rumor I guess...

 

[Eli]

I think someone was a little pissed at the success of a certain other band when he wrote Go to Hell.

 

[aircooled]

CK: If someone offered you a lot of money to make a reunion album with Lars and Hetfield, would you say yes or no?

Dave Mustaine: I'd do it for free!

CK: For free?

DM: Yeah because it would be great for the Heavy Metal community. I think if the three of us got back together, obviously there would have to be a bass player and if it could David Ellefson it would be great because both bands would benefit from it. It would have a lot of people in both bands who don't like the other band stop saying sh!t about each other; because a lot of Metallica fans don't like Megadeth - a lot of them don't and some of them do - and Megadeth fans don't like Metallica - a lot of them don't and some of them do. I think that if the four of us got together we'd help both bands tremendously. It would mostly help us than them because they don't really need our help. We could benefit from doing something like that.

I'd love to see that happen!

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: aircooled

CK: If someone offered you a lot of money to make a reunion album with Lars and Hetfield, would you say yes or no?

Dave Mustaine: I'd do it for free!

CK: For free?

DM: Yeah because it would be great for the Heavy Metal community. I think if the three of us got back together, obviously there would have to be a bass player and if it could David Ellefson it would be great because both bands would benefit from it. It would have a lot of people in both bands who don't like the other band stop saying sh!t about each other; because a lot of Metallica fans don't like Megadeth - a lot of them don't and some of them do - and Megadeth fans don't like Metallica - a lot of them don't and some of them do. I think that if the four of us got together we'd help both bands tremendously. It would mostly help us than them because they don't really need our help. We could benefit from doing something like that.

I'd love to see that happen!

I wouldn't.....Metallica lost their edge many years ago. Dave never has even though I am not a big megadeth fan.

 

[rh71]

I'm a huge Metallica fan and gave Megadeth a try to no avail... it wasn't a competition thing... I was completely open-minded... but they just weren't up to par. I don't like Metallica's Load/Reload albums, but that doesn't mean they lost their edge. Ever realize they were simply trying something new? They let Hammett and Newsted write some of the songs for those albums for Christ's sake. And S&M... simply trying something new. What more did they have to prove in their old arena? Many interviews later, some of you still don't realize that. The word here is dynamic. Some hardcore fans didn't like the direction, but it brought them tons more fans... who can say... "yeah, I've heard of Metallica"... do you honestly think they needed more money?

Go to one of their concerts next year and tell me if they can't still play fast, hard, and heavy.

 

[Sunner]

Cool, haven't been keeping track of them lately, kinda assumed they had slowly and quietly died away, glad to hear I was wrong, even though I strongly doubt they'll ever produce something as great as "Rust in Peace" again...

Oh and I agree, Metallica has definately lost their edge, trying something new or not, they haven't produced anything new and worthwhile in a long time.
If they produce something that can come even remotely close to Ride the Lightning again, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm a huge Metallica fan and gave Megadeth a try to no avail... it wasn't a competition thing... I was completely open-minded... but they just weren't up to par. I don't like Metallica's Load/Reload albums, but that doesn't mean they lost their edge. Ever realize they were simply trying something new? They let Hammett and Newsted write some of the songs for those albums for Christ's sake. And S&M... simply trying something new. What more did they have to prove in their old arena? Many interviews later, some of you still don't realize that. The word here is dynamic. Some hardcore fans didn't like the direction, but it brought them tons more fans... who can say... "yeah, I've heard of Metallica"... do you honestly think they needed more money?

Go to one of their concerts next year and tell me if they can't still play fast, hard, and heavy.

In interviews a few years ago they said they didn't want to make music like "Ride the Lightning" because it was technically too difficult. They got lazy and old. They lost their edge. Don't try to pull the Hemmett Newsted card because if you haven't kept up, Newsted is creating original creative music now. The rest of Metallica were the ones trying to keep Newsted from making good music outside of Metallica.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Oh and I agree, Metallica has definately lost their edge, trying something new or not, they haven't produced anything new and worthwhile in a long time.
If they produce something that can come even remotely close to Ride the Lightning again, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.

In this case, I'd say it's a to-each-his-own thing and not talent... because I think one of their best albums is Justice.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm a huge Metallica fan and gave Megadeth a try to no avail... it wasn't a competition thing... I was completely open-minded... but they just weren't up to par. I don't like Metallica's Load/Reload albums, but that doesn't mean they lost their edge. Ever realize they were simply trying something new? They let Hammett and Newsted write some of the songs for those albums for Christ's sake. And S&M... simply trying something new. What more did they have to prove in their old arena? Many interviews later, some of you still don't realize that. The word here is dynamic. Some hardcore fans didn't like the direction, but it brought them tons more fans... who can say... "yeah, I've heard of Metallica"... do you honestly think they needed more money?

Go to one of their concerts next year and tell me if they can't still play fast, hard, and heavy.

In interviews a few years ago they said they didn't want to make music like "Ride the Lightning" because it was technically too difficult. They got lazy and old. They lost their edge. Don't try to pull the Hemmett Newsted card because if you haven't kept up, Newsted is creating original creative music now. The rest of Metallica were the ones trying to keep Newsted from making good music outside of Metallica.

I fail to see how your last statement even matters in my argument. Nobody's talking about the guys keeping Newsted from making his own music... that's a well-known fact. But how does that matter here?

All I said was that Newsted and Hammett were allowed to contribute in Load/Reload and look where it landed the album. There was much hype in their upcoming release in '95, following a ridiculously well-selling Black Album, until the Load album ACTUALLY hit the shelves. Metallica didn't lose any velocity until that album. I won't even mention ReLoad. To each of us as fans, we have different tastes and some may think they stopped in their tracks after Burton's death, but how many fans came from the Justice days? And even more from TBA. Just because you lost interest in their sound doesn't mean they lost their edge. They still play most of the old stuff and about 4 or 5 post-'95 songs. When was the last time you went to their concert and didn't see them play Bellz or Fade. Hell, I saw them play Trapped Under Ice once. IF you stopped going to their concerts, well then that's your fault for not keeping up or even care to... in which case... you have no business arguing.

BTW, I applaud him standing up for himself and leaving the band to pursue his own creativity,... but I don't hear Echobrain doing all that well... do you ?

 

[aircooled]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Cool, haven't been keeping track of them lately, kinda assumed they had slowly and quietly died away, glad to hear I was wrong, even though I strongly doubt they'll ever produce something as great as "Rust in Peace" again...

Oh and I agree, Metallica has definitely lost their edge, trying something new or not, they haven't produced anything new and worthwhile in a long time.
If they produce something that can come even remotely close to Ride the Lightning again, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.

Rust in Peace is definitely Megadeth's "masterpiece" album, as is Metallica's ...And Justice for all. Neither band has created anything better to date (in my opinion...;-))

 

[Aceshigh]

Agree with Rust in Peace. As for Metallica, I felt like their masterpiece was Ride the Lightning.

 

[Sunner]

Well, And justice for all was good, but I think Ride the lightning holds a slight edge.
But then, Master of Puppets kicks ass as well, the good ole days and all that

 

[CPA]

Heavy Metal will never be as good as it was in the early to mid-80's. Never.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: CPA
Heavy Metal will never be as good as it was in the early to mid-80's. Never.

You mean when metal was at the pinnacle of it's musicianship and compositional intricacy? No doubt! this nu metal crappppp? :disgust:

Metallica hasn't produced anything decent since the black album... and that was decent at best. I'd have to agree that RIP and Master of Puppets were prolly the best of the two bands. But then again... all those older albums kick butt.

After attempting to listen to some of the Metallica S&M albums and a few other live performance I seriously feel Metallica has lost it musically. Lars is too busy being a money-grubbing dork who can't do double pedal bass drum rolls without electronics. Kirk's solos are severely cut down from before, methinks they've lost their chops for good.

 

[Triumph]

well, Kill Em All is all about Dave Mustaine anyway. Those are his solos you hear Kirk copying. I have a very early live recording of Metallica with Dave and then-new bassist Burton. It's in a small club, and it sounds almost exactly like Kill Em All. That shows two things; the effect that Dave had on the band, and just how freakin' good they were.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Triumph
well, Kill Em All is all about Dave Mustaine anyway. Those are his solos you hear Kirk copying. I have a very early live recording of Metallica with Dave and then-new bassist Burton. It's in a small club, and it sounds almost exactly like Kill Em All. That shows two things; the effect that Dave had on the band, and just how freakin' good they were.

But then Kill Em All wasn't one of their best albums... I'd personally rank it 4th or 5th on their list.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm a huge Metallica fan and gave Megadeth a try to no avail... it wasn't a competition thing... I was completely open-minded... but they just weren't up to par. I don't like Metallica's Load/Reload albums, but that doesn't mean they lost their edge. Ever realize they were simply trying something new? They let Hammett and Newsted write some of the songs for those albums for Christ's sake. And S&M... simply trying something new. What more did they have to prove in their old arena? Many interviews later, some of you still don't realize that. The word here is dynamic. Some hardcore fans didn't like the direction, but it brought them tons more fans... who can say... "yeah, I've heard of Metallica"... do you honestly think they needed more money?

Go to one of their concerts next year and tell me if they can't still play fast, hard, and heavy.

In interviews a few years ago they said they didn't want to make music like "Ride the Lightning" because it was technically too difficult. They got lazy and old. They lost their edge. Don't try to pull the Hemmett Newsted card because if you haven't kept up, Newsted is creating original creative music now. The rest of Metallica were the ones trying to keep Newsted from making good music outside of Metallica.

I fail to see how your last statement even matters in my argument. Nobody's talking about the guys keeping Newsted from making his own music... that's a well-known fact. But how does that matter here?

All I said was that Newsted and Hammett were allowed to contribute in Load/Reload and look where it landed the album. There was much hype in their upcoming release in '95, following a ridiculously well-selling Black Album, until the Load album ACTUALLY hit the shelves. Metallica didn't lose any velocity until that album. I won't even mention ReLoad. To each of us as fans, we have different tastes and some may think they stopped in their tracks after Burton's death, but how many fans came from the Justice days? And even more from TBA. Just because you lost interest in their sound doesn't mean they lost their edge. They still play most of the old stuff and about 4 or 5 post-'95 songs. When was the last time you went to their concert and didn't see them play Bellz or Fade. Hell, I saw them play Trapped Under Ice once. IF you stopped going to their concerts, well then that's your fault for not keeping up or even care to... in which case... you have no business arguing.

BTW, I applaud him standing up for himself and leaving the band to pursue his own creativity,... but I don't hear Echobrain doing all that well... do you ?

Well my point about Newsted was the fact that I don't think it was him or Hammett that made Load/reload the albums they were. How can you say they didn't lose their edge??? Listen to anything before the black album(which I dislike almost as much as load/reload) and then listen to Load/Reload. They are not the same band. Some of the solos are the same and the vocals are the same but that is it. I NEVER went to any of their concerts. I have no desire to pay $80 for decent tickets to see metallica. Especially when my friends who saw them in the 80's and seen them in the late 90's say the concerts are not nearly as good. Would I have paid $20 to see them in the 80's?? Heck yeah but I wasn't of age to make those decisions at that time.

Fans can like what they want but Metallica pre-Black album is not the same Metallica as post-Black album.

I actually don't go see many "mainstream" bands because I refuse to pay the price. I pretty much only go see local bands because money hasn't corrupted the scene.

That doesn't mean my opinion of the music is any less because I refuse to hand over my hard earned cash to hear subpar concerts.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Triumph
well, Kill Em All is all about Dave Mustaine anyway. Those are his solos you hear Kirk copying. I have a very early live recording of Metallica with Dave and then-new bassist Burton. It's in a small club, and it sounds almost exactly like Kill Em All. That shows two things; the effect that Dave had on the band, and just how freakin' good they were.

the mechanix?

"who ever thought you'd be better
turning a screw than me
i do it for my liiife"