meg whitmans kids have even worse character than she does

woolfe9999

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So are her kids pieces of worthless shit, or are they not?

Who knows. Many trust fund babies are spoiled, snot nosed brats. But I wouldn't pretend to know whether hers are that way from that article or that source. Trashing people's kids, even if they somehow deserve it, for purposes of political gain, shows no class whatsoever.

- wolf
 

OBLAMA2009

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Who knows. Many trust fund babies are spoiled, snot nosed brats. But I wouldn't pretend to know whether hers are that way from that article or that source. Trashing people's kids, even if they somehow deserve it, for purposes of political gain, shows no class whatsoever.

- wolf

they arent exactly kids anymore
 

OBLAMA2009

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While it's worse if they are young kids, I don't think a candidate's children are fair game.

- wolf

i sort of agree but if they are going around as adults doing anti social things, getting kicked out of schools, calling people nigs, doing obnoxious things to people, then it reflects on the parents personally and should be reported. i wouldnt approve of going after them if they were say, ugly (chelsea clinton) or stupid (amy carter, jenna bush). i dont want someone who has kids like that in control of this state, theyll abuse other people
 

Craig234

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In general, family should be off-limits for any normal 'political attack'.

But there are lines where some coverage is justified.

It is partly based on age - there's nothing a 10 year old can do I can think of that justifies a political attack on them, up to and including butchering the family dog.

But if Michelle Obama is convicted of using her position for criminal fraud, or becomes a leader of a radical political group (other than the Democrats, for our right-wingers who equate Democrats to Al Queda), that seems newsworthy. Carter's brother, Clinton's brother, Bush sons/brothers all did things deserving coverage.

The allegations here reflect enough on the parenting and family culture of Meg Whitman that they seem to raise some questions for her. Not a ton, we're electing her not them, but to the point that if they seem to be serious racists, we can ask how much of that reflects on the type of governor she would be. How did she respond to the behavior?
 

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i sort of agree but if they are going around as adults doing anti social things, getting kicked out of schools, calling people nigs, doing obnoxious things to people, then it reflects on the parents personally and should be reported. i wouldnt approve of going after them if they were say, ugly (chelsea clinton) or stupid (amy carter, jenna bush). i dont want someone who has kids like that in control of this state, theyll abuse other people

My parents who were very nice and very normal people had me. That just blows your argument to hell, I'm afraid.
 

woolfe9999

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i sort of agree but if they are going around as adults doing anti social things, getting kicked out of schools, calling people nigs, doing obnoxious things to people, then it reflects on the parents personally and should be reported. i wouldnt approve of going after them if they were say, ugly (chelsea clinton) or stupid (amy carter, jenna bush). i dont want someone who has kids like that in control of this state, theyll abuse other people

Spouses bother me a little less than older kids, older kids a little less than younger kids. And it depends on the issue. In general, there aren't many situations where I think the older children of a candidate should be brought in. It was in the case of Sarah and Bristol Palin due to the allegation of hypocrisy in her having socially conservative views and having a 16 year old daughter getting pregant. Even THAT was borderline at best for me. It didn't affect my perception of Palin much one way or the other.

If we're going to take the Whitman issue on its own terms, and assume that the article you posted is basically true, why should I feel this negatively impacts here ability to govern the state? The way I look at it, wealthy/successful parents are often wealthy/successful because they are devoted careerists. Such parents often neglect their kids in favor of their careers, and let their money do the parenting for them. This often produces poorly behaved kids. I've seen it many, many times with very wealthy people I've known. Their kids are almost ALWAYS messed up in major serious ways. However, what does that say about her ability to govern? To me, if it says anything, it says she devotes more attention to her work than her family. While that sucks for her family, it doesn't necessarily suck for a corporation she runs or a state she governs. It means she is a shitty parent with a good work ethic. Honestly, I'll take that over the reverse situation any time.

- wolf
 

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Spouses bother me a little less than older kids, older kids a little less than younger kids. And it depends on the issue. In general, there aren't many situations where I think the older children of a candidate should be brought in. It was in the case of Sarah and Bristol Palin due to the allegation of hypocrisy in her having socially conservative views and having a 16 year old daughter getting pregant. Even THAT was borderline at best for me. It didn't affect my perception of Palin much one way or the other.

If we're going to take the Whitman issue on its own terms, and assume that the article you posted is basically true, why should I feel this negatively impacts here ability to govern the state? The way I look at it, wealthy/successful parents are often wealthy/successful because they are devoted careerists. Such parents often neglect their kids in favor of their careers, and let their money do the parenting for them. This often produces poorly behaved kids. I've seen it many, many times with very wealthy people I've known. Their kids are almost ALWAYS messed up in major serious ways. However, what does that say about her ability to govern? To me, if it says anything, it says she devotes more attention to her work than her family. While that sucks for her family, it doesn't necessarily suck for a corporation she runs or a state she governs. It means she is a shitty parent with a good work ethic. Honestly, I'll take that over the reverse situation any time.

- wolf

youre basically right, i think her kids even went to boarding schools on the east coast so she hardly even raised them
 

Nebor

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Pretty typical behavior from rich, conservative, elitists.

Ridiculous. I know plenty of kids that went to boarding school, and if I ever have any, I'll care enough for their futures to send them to boarding school. Kids learn so much better without the constant distraction of their families.
 

dainthomas

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Ridiculous. I know plenty of kids that went to boarding school, and if I ever have any, I'll care enough for their futures to send them to boarding school. Kids learn so much better without the constant distraction of their families.

Elitist!
 

Linflas

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I'm more curious as to what the OP thinks he knows about the character of Meg Whitman and what he bases that on? I suspect after a spew of DNC talking points what it really comes down to is that she holds views opposite his therefore her character must be impugned.
 

werepossum

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I'm more curious as to what the OP thinks he knows about the character of Meg Whitman and what he bases that on? I suspect after a spew of DNC talking points what it really comes down to is that she holds views opposite his therefore her character must be impugned.

For your benefit I have placed in bold the point where your question becomes unanswerable. :D