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[CaptnKirk]

Dare We Say No to Political Asylum?

The US Immigration Policy always leaves a special opening for political refugees who are forced to flee from
a country in strife and they are trying to escape with their lives.

We did it with Viet Nam, we did it with the Balkans, we have special 'tag up' rules for Cuba
'if' they can get their feet on dry land.
(Of course we don't want no Hatians or Dominican Republicans though)

So how can we not allow these refugees to come to our country - their countries strife is a product of our own making,
another consequence of a failed foriegn diplomacy that the long term impacts were ignored.

Get ready for the influx of thousands of Islamic Refugees, coming to a neighborhood near you . . . soon.

 

[Steeplerot]

Yep, this was another inevitable aspect of going to war with them, what is it? 800k refugees fleeing this chaos we have brought down on them?

Many more to come to a neighborhood near you.

The nativists are going to be begging for it to be only mexicans who are quite close to us culturewise.

 

[EatSpam]

It would be hysterical if they ended up in the Red States, especially the rural parts...

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yep, this was another inevitable aspect of going to war with them, what is it?
800k refugees fleeing this chaos we have brought down on them?

Many more to come to a neighborhood near you.

Unofficial estimates are that there are over 600,000 in Jordan alone.
many have fled into Turkey, Iran, Syria, Kuwait, and other countries in the region.

We haven't even got into the War-Bride thing yet, a time honored US Military tradition.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
It would be hysterical if they ended up in the Red States, especially the rural parts...

I think it would be great, best way to kill off ignorance is to expose people to what they fear day to day so they understand there really is no difference in the average person.

The bigger the anti-muslim/warmongering area they are the more iraqis they should have to care for, watch the islamaphobia die in a generation or two fast.

One of the great things about america. Too bad the red states miss out.

It's like that old public enemy phrase, Fear of a Black Planet, except this planet is bound to be very mulatto. And all the better for it imo.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: EatSpam
It would be hysterical if they ended up in the Red States, especially the rural parts...

I think it would be great, best way to kill off ignorance is to expose people to what they fear day to day so they understand there really is no difference in the average person.

Actually, I'm pretty sure they'd have their own little holy war. Crazy Muslim Jihadists vs. crazy Falwell Fundies.... I'd buy pay-per-view.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Dare We Say No to Political Asylum?

The US Immigration Policy always leaves a special opening for political refugees who are forced to flee from
a country in strife and they are trying to escape with their lives.

We did it with Viet Nam, we did it with the Balkans, we have special 'tag up' rules for Cuba
'if' they can get their feet on dry land.
(Of course we don't want no Hatians or Dominican Republicans though)

So how can we not allow these refugees to come to our country - their countries strife is a product of our own making,
another consequence of a failed foriegn diplomacy that the long term impacts were ignored.

Get ready for the influx of thousands of Islamic Refugees, coming to a neighborhood near you . . . soon.

So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

We don't need an excuse, they are already here, it is only the haters who are looking for an excuse to not.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

We don't need an excuse, they are already here, it is only the haters who are looking for an excuse to not.

Have you donated your property back to the native americans yet?

I guess your an evil racist hater too, huh.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

We don't need an excuse, they are already here, it is only the haters who are looking for an excuse to not.

Have you donated your property back to the native americans yet?

I guess your an evil racist hater too, huh.

Has nothing to do with the issue, you are getting more and more confused daily, I know your a smart guy, you really should take a step back and see how badly you are being played.

 

[palehorse]

i think it would be fine for them, or anyone, to migrate to the US. as long as they do so through legal channels, I see absolutely no problems with it.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
i think it would be fine for them, or anyone, to migrate to the US. as long as they do so through legal channels, I see absolutely no problems with it.

Yeah right, we have seen how red staters have taken to african american refugees in houston from new orleans dogging them out on the news nightly blaming all their problems on them.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

We don't need an excuse, they are already here, it is only the haters who are looking for an excuse to not.

Have you donated your property back to the native americans yet?

I guess your an evil racist hater too, huh.

Has nothing to do with the issue, you are getting more and more confused daily, I know your a smart guy, you really should take a step back and see how badly you are being played.

No one is playing me. I got broke from being played by the R's and I'm doing my best not to be played by the D's.

Back on topic, as long as immigrants come here legally, then more power to them!!

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

No one is playing me. I got broke from being played by the R's and I'm doing my best not to be played by the D's.

In south dakota I could see how it seems like some invasion if you are listening to right wing tv stations or radio feeding you racist trash, but reality is a whole different story.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

No one is playing me. I got broke from being played by the R's and I'm doing my best not to be played by the D's.

In south dakota I could see how it seems like some invasion if you are listening to right wing tv stations or radio feeding you racist trash, but reality is a whole different story.

Yeah, you know how it is here so your cutting me some slack? Thanks, but no thanks. I have been a long time supporter of "English Only". I know some police officers who have to learn spanish now just to keep their jobs. If they can't do it, they've been told they're out the door.

That's totaly bogus.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

Check your history book - we already did that many years ago.
Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California - all were part of Mexico before the US took it over.
Mater of fact, the Alamo was a cage match where the looser HAD to take Texas.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

Check your history book - we already did that many years ago.
Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California - all were part of Mexico before the US took it over.
Mater of fact, the Alamo was a cage match where the looser HAD to take Texas.

I fail to see the relationship between bringing in political refugees and illegal migrants?

Here is a really good read on the history of the area. Of course, the issue has gotten so large that it no longer concerns just that area.

The Mexican Heritage in the American Southwest

I find this part especially interesting:

Economic and political conditions during the Great Depression reversed the flow of immigrants into the United States. An estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 Mexicans returned to Mexico during the 1930s. Of course, they were "encouraged" to return by President Franklin Roosevelt and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service.

During the 1930s, the INS conducted a series of well-publicized raids on Mexican citizens living and working in the United States. No place was secure from the clutches of the INS; for example, one infamous raid took place on Mexican families who were picnicking in a Los Angeles park. The message President Roosevelt and the INS sent out to Mexican citizens, whom previous Americans had welcomed for decades, was loud and clear: "You're not welcome here any longer. Get out of our country or face involuntary repatriation to Mexico." Never mind that Mexicans had been able to freely come into United States since 1848, had legally started families and businesses, had legally purchased homes and other properties, had secured legal employment, had contributed to American prosperity, and had paid taxes.

 

[ajf3]

Just send 'em to France... it's closer.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

Check your history book - we already did that many years ago.
Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California - all were part of Mexico before the US took it over.
Mater of fact, the Alamo was a cage match where the looser HAD to take Texas.

I fail to see the relationship between bringing in political refugees and illegal migrants?

Here is a really good read on the history of the area. Of course, the issue has gotten so large that it no longer concerns just that area.

The Mexican Heritage in the American Southwest

I find this part especially interesting:

Economic and political conditions during the Great Depression reversed the flow of immigrants into the United States. An estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 Mexicans returned to Mexico during the 1930s. Of course, they were "encouraged" to return by President Franklin Roosevelt and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service.

During the 1930s, the INS conducted a series of well-publicized raids on Mexican citizens living and working in the United States. No place was secure from the clutches of the INS; for example, one infamous raid took place on Mexican families who were picnicking in a Los Angeles park. The message President Roosevelt and the INS sent out to Mexican citizens, whom previous Americans had welcomed for decades, was loud and clear: "You're not welcome here any longer. Get out of our country or face involuntary repatriation to Mexico." Never mind that Mexicans had been able to freely come into United States since 1848, had legally started families and businesses, had legally purchased homes and other properties, had secured legal employment, had contributed to American prosperity, and had paid taxes.

Arizona = Feb. 14, 1912 - 48th
New Mexico = Jan. 6, 1912 - 47th
Oklahoma = Nov. 16, 1907 - 46th (beloved patriot Territory)

My comment is that the US took the land from them and made it part of the US of A.
The Mexican Residents - where did they want to deport them to?


In the commentary about the Dust Bowl days of the 1930's depression era, thousands of American Citizens - by birth . .
2nd, 3rd, 4th generation American Citizens were rounded up by the INS and deported to Mexico because they here of Mexican Decent.
They were not allowed to take their 'papers' with them - like birth certificates, and the like.
Some of those people had to struggle for nearly 20 years to get back into the United States, their country by birth.

 

[piasabird]

We could start by refusing refugees from cuba. Why are Cubans better than mexicans or people from Europe or Taiwan?

The thing about accepting refugees is it does not encourage them to solve their own problems. There is no reason why countries in South Amerca can not be as industrialized and as modern as the United States.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


So if we invade Mexico then we have an excuse to legalize the illegals?

Check your history book - we already did that many years ago.
Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California - all were part of Mexico before the US took it over.
Mater of fact, the Alamo was a cage match where the looser HAD to take Texas.

I fail to see the relationship between bringing in political refugees and illegal migrants?

Here is a really good read on the history of the area. Of course, the issue has gotten so large that it no longer concerns just that area.

The Mexican Heritage in the American Southwest

I find this part especially interesting:

Economic and political conditions during the Great Depression reversed the flow of immigrants into the United States. An estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 Mexicans returned to Mexico during the 1930s. Of course, they were "encouraged" to return by President Franklin Roosevelt and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service.

During the 1930s, the INS conducted a series of well-publicized raids on Mexican citizens living and working in the United States. No place was secure from the clutches of the INS; for example, one infamous raid took place on Mexican families who were picnicking in a Los Angeles park. The message President Roosevelt and the INS sent out to Mexican citizens, whom previous Americans had welcomed for decades, was loud and clear: "You're not welcome here any longer. Get out of our country or face involuntary repatriation to Mexico." Never mind that Mexicans had been able to freely come into United States since 1848, had legally started families and businesses, had legally purchased homes and other properties, had secured legal employment, had contributed to American prosperity, and had paid taxes.

Arizona = Feb. 14, 1912 - 48th
New Mexico = Jan. 6, 1912 - 47th
Oklahoma = Nov. 16, 1907 - 46th (beloved patriot Territory)

My comment is that the US took the land from them and made it part of the US of A.
The Mexican Residents - where did they want to deport them to?


In the commentary about the Dust Bowl days of the 1930's depression era, thousands of American Citizens - by birth . .
2nd, 3rd, 4th generation American Citizens were rounded up by the INS and deported to Mexico because they here of Mexican Decent.
They were not allowed to take their 'papers' with them - like birth certificates, and the like.
Some of those people had to struggle for nearly 20 years to get back into the United States, their country by birth.

I'm not going to feel guilty about things that happened long before I was even born. That said, if this country does fall into another Great Depression, what do you suppose is going to happen to the illegals already here?

In another thread Steeple has already said there is apossibility of a race war. Do you think that is where we are heading?

 

[ExpertNovice]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yep, this was another inevitable aspect of going to war with them, what is it? 800k refugees fleeing this chaos we have brought down on them?

Many more to come to a neighborhood near you.

The nativists are going to be begging for it to be only mexicans who are quite close to us culturewise.

I'm stunned!

No, amazed!

No! I'm like totally devestated from the shock that you would actually agree that what Clinton did in 1994 was a horrific action!

Wow, if even you can see the truth in his actions this lends great hope to the U.S., nay, the world!


The goal was to put an anti-capitalist in control of Haiti.

Jack Kemp told a group of people exactly what was about to happen. I was recevied the letter a week before anything happened. At that time all I could find out was that Carter was in Haiti. That didn't bode well for Haitians. Sure enough exactly what Kemp said was going to happen did. Clinton restored power to Airistide. You know the man... another vote for me or be necklaced. (FYI: that means your hands are tied behind your back, a tire put around your neck, the tire is filled with gasoline, and the gasoline is lit.) Carter/Clinton. Great tag team.

At least the stories about Chavez in Venezuela, another man who whas helped by Clinton to gain power. Yep, another anti-American / anti-capitalist.

We could finish what Roosevelt started and help Haiti but you can imagine how big the revolt against imperialistic America would be. Better to let them suffer. Besides, who in Haiti would trust America after seeing what Clinton did "for" them.

 

[Steeplerot]

What the hell are you talking about? I was not even talking about haiti? or clinton. I think you are losing it.

The 800k are iraqis I am talking about.

 

[Zebo]

Where does it say they are coming here? It's quite difficult to get here from overseas so I don't see it happening. Cost is one thing, then you are not allowed to board an international fight to USA without a Visa or US passport. Maybe they will sneak into mexico then cross with relative ease but then again we know what mexico does to immigrants so thats not gonna happen either. Don't worry tabout it.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Where does it say they are coming here? It's quite difficult to get here from overseas so I don't see it happening. Cost is one thing, then you are not allowed to board an international fight to USA without a Visa or US passport. Maybe they will sneak into mexico then cross with relative ease but then again we know what mexico does to immigrants so thats not gonna happen either. Don't worry tabout it.

I am thinking they mean asylum, not immigration or migration.

Not quite sure but asylum from a war we are involved in is a different ballgame. ( vietnamese boat people come to mind)