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IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
She should really consider applying for disability if she has severe bipolar. At that point, she would have a monthly income and medicare.

yeap in 3-5 years as long as she has medical proof (wich is going to the problem) lol

They will send you to one of their doctors for proof. I've been down this road before.

then you should know the medical doctor they send you to is not there to help you but to find out if they can claim you can work.

for SSDI she is going ot need more proof then they think. the odds on getting a full favorable decision with one doctor is low.

She can work. She is not a stupid girl. But she feels like she's having a mental break down on a weekly basis which of course impacts her ability to HOLD the jobs she has gotten.
 

Away

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
She should really consider applying for disability if she has severe bipolar. At that point, she would have a monthly income and medicare.

yeap in 3-5 years as long as she has medical proof (wich is going to the problem) lol

They will send you to one of their doctors for proof. I've been down this road before.

then you should know the medical doctor they send you to is not there to help you but to find out if they can claim you can work.

for SSDI she is going ot need more proof then they think. the odds on getting a full favorable decision with one doctor is low.

I am currently on disabiilty and was accepted after my first application. The only proof I had was from a therapist I saw a while back from when I applied. The psychiatrist they sent me to seemed impartial and conducted a complete examination. I don't believe I would have been accepted without seeing her.
 

SsupernovaE

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
She should really consider applying for disability if she has severe bipolar. At that point, she would have a monthly income and medicare.

yeap in 3-5 years as long as she has medical proof (wich is going to the problem) lol

They will send you to one of their doctors for proof. I've been down this road before.

then you should know the medical doctor they send you to is not there to help you but to find out if they can claim you can work.

for SSDI she is going ot need more proof then they think. the odds on getting a full favorable decision with one doctor is low.

I've been down this road also. Keep in mind that I am profoundly disabled with muscular dystrophy and my body below my neck is useless (think Stephen Hawking). When I first applied for Medicaid and SSI, I was denied. I had to appeal twice before they took me seriously. It was not an income problem because my family was definitely under the maximum allowable income, plus I was over 18 at the time. After consulting a lawyer and sending a letter to my congressman, I was finally approved. Come to find out, it is procedure to deny a first claim, at least in Virginia.

What pisses me off is all of the people that receive the services that obviously do not need them. I am not the only severely disabled person to have to go through hell to get help. I understand why people are against socialized healthcare, but, I believe it is absolutely necessary for a certain segment of society.

Iceberg, if your friend is really in dire straits (and mental illness is definitely something that should not be treated lightly) get her to the local social services office ASAP to sign up for services. Also, there are attorneys that specialize in helping people with low incomes to obtain services from the stubborn bureaucratic system. That's all the advice I can give you.
 

Tobolo

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Hospital and hope she has medicare/aid.
Hospitals can't refuse treatment. They will have psych on staff.

I thought this only applies to emergencys..? The OP's friend's situation does not sound like an emergency.

so? she can still go in and get treatment. you havent been toa ER lately have you?

Not recently, last time I went to the ER was a few years ago (2 total visits to ER in my life); but from my understanding, the ER was for actual emergencies. Someone with bi-polar psych problems doesnt quite seem to be an emergency. In other words, I don't think I would be seen in an ER if I strolled in for depression.

Is there something I'm missing?

They see anyone regardless of condition due to liability. If they tell someone to leave and they have a heart attack that night (whether they came in for that or not) then they will get sued. So they just have to see everyone.
 

compman25

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Can't she work for you as a stripper? Then she can buy her own health insurance.

Oh, and pics?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
This girl I know....no job, no money. 23 y.o. She is certain she has severe bi-polar and its seriously impacting her ability to get back on her feet. How can she get medication without incurring thousands in medical bills?

She's tried walk in clinics but they won't do anything without a psychiatrist referall. Psychiatrists cost money she just doesn't have.

What options are available?

she needs to go to her regular doc for a regular office visit. he/she can give her a referral for free Public Health counseling which can lead to a free Psychiatrist visit and if needed free medication.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Hospital and hope she has medicare/aid.
Hospitals can't refuse treatment. They will have psych on staff.

I thought this only applies to emergencys..? The OP's friend's situation does not sound like an emergency.

so? she can still go in and get treatment. you havent been toa ER lately have you?

Not recently, last time I went to the ER was a few years ago (2 total visits to ER in my life); but from my understanding, the ER was for actual emergencies. Someone with bi-polar psych problems doesnt quite seem to be an emergency. In other words, I don't think I would be seen in an ER if I strolled in for depression.

Is there something I'm missing?

Call in her for a suicide saying she thought she was gonna kill herself.

Emergency right there :)
 

nanette1985

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
This girl I know....no job, no money. 23 y.o. She is certain she has severe bi-polar and its seriously impacting her ability to get back on her feet. How can she get medication without incurring thousands in medical bills?

She's tried walk in clinics but they won't do anything without a psychiatrist referall. Psychiatrists cost money she just doesn't have.

What options are available?

The big problem with something like bipolar is that if she's sane and together enough to walk into a clinic or deal with the complexity of a social service agency, then she's not impaired enough to qualify for treatment.

The way the system is set up, she really needs to flip out badly, dangerously in public in order to get help - but if she does that, she ends up in the criminal system where they don't deal with help, just punishment. Oops.

I bolded the medication part because that's a huge problem. For obvious reasons it's very difficult to get expensive medication for free. The help she's most likely to get will not be medication - there are a lot of other treatments.

If she talks to any counselor, social service person etc she should NOT mention medication. Do you have any idea how many people are trying to scam meds out of the system? Nearly everyone that goes to an agency.

"She is certain she has severe bi-polar"??? Has she been diagnosed? 23, no job, no money would trigger a lot of mental conditions - anxiety, etc. She can't just self-diagnose and expect to get meds for free.

How does she know she needs medication? Medication can often help bipolar but it usually takes a lot of trial and error before a good med combo gets worked out - and then it needs to be monitored. Throwing the wrong med at her can make things worse, not better.

On a practical level, her best bet for help and sympathy is probably a battered woman place - victims of domestic violence, whatever she can find. Doesn't really matter if she's not a victim of domestic violence, it sounds like she's been "battered by life". In my experience they have the best contacts and information about where to go for help.

A lot of soup kitchens have good people who can point her towards help. She'll also get a meal.

Hope it works out.

 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Away
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Away
She should really consider applying for disability if she has severe bipolar. At that point, she would have a monthly income and medicare.

yeap in 3-5 years as long as she has medical proof (wich is going to the problem) lol

They will send you to one of their doctors for proof. I've been down this road before.

then you should know the medical doctor they send you to is not there to help you but to find out if they can claim you can work.

for SSDI she is going ot need more proof then they think. the odds on getting a full favorable decision with one doctor is low.

I am currently on disabiilty and was accepted after my first application. The only proof I had was from a therapist I saw a while back from when I applied. The psychiatrist they sent me to seemed impartial and conducted a complete examination. I don't believe I would have been accepted without seeing her.


the number of people that get SSDI on the first try with little to no proof is very very very low.

msot get denied the first time. no matter how bad they are. They have to appeal. wich could take a year or even longer. even the appeal the number who actually deserve it who are denied is very high. finally you can hire an attorney an fight it. thats when most get it.

to many have to resort to what supernova did. it is not as easy as you make itout to be.


And yes you would nto have been accepted without seeing her. refusing or missing the appointment is reasonf or a denial.
 

ICRS

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A neurologist could also prescribe her the medicine, maybe they will be cheaper to see.
 

Allanv

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Manic phase of bipolar disorder
Signs and symptoms of the manic phase of bipolar disorder may include:

* Euphoria
* Extreme optimism
* Inflated self-esteem
* Poor judgment
* Rapid speech
* Racing thoughts
* Aggressive behavior
* Agitation
* Increased physical activity
* Risky behavior
* Spending sprees
* Increased drive to perform or achieve goals
* Increased sexual drive
* Decreased need for sleep
* Tendency to be easily distracted
* Inability to concentrate
* Drug abuse

we used to call that being a teenager now its a disorder???

sorry had to google it as i was unaware what it was. As for the care do what everyone else does pay for a cheep ticket to the UK we will fix the problem and no cash needed. But apart from that I am no help i see different disorders day in day out that when i was young just a naughty child. Someone told me recenlty about middle child syndrome... um i was a middle child and i am perfectly normal except i post on here.