Medical marijuana question

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Wtf does this mean? Important parts in the first paragraph

State Medical Cannabis Laws are Final!
Return of Legal Cannabis Not Pre-empted by Federal Law

Dear ASA Supporter,

The U.S. Supreme Court refused to review a landmark decision yesterday in which California state courts found that its medical cannabis law is not preempted by federal law. The Supreme Court?s decision in Garden Grove v. Superior Court means that federal law does not prevent state and local governments from implementing medical cannabis laws adopted by voters or state legislatures. In short: federal law does not override state law on medical cannabis!

Yesterday?s decision follows three years of strategic legal work by Americans for Safe Access (ASA) in a California case involving the return of wrongfully confiscated medicine. ASA needs your help to keep doing important work like this. Please take a moment to make a special contribution to ASA today.

The Court?s decision has broad implications for medical cannabis patients in the 13 states where medical cannabis is legal, and signals a sea change in the impasse between state and federal laws. Better adherence to state medical cannabis laws by local police will result in fewer needless arrests and other problems for patients, allowing for better implementation of medical cannabis laws in all states that have adopted them.

Medical cannabis advocates should be encouraged by opportunities for change in federal policy with a new Presidential Administration and shift in Congress. But until now, federal pre-emption has haunted patients whose state laws allow for medical cannabis use. This decision further clears the way for state implementation and adds new urgency to ASA?s work in the nation?s capitol, where we have been working full-time to change federal policy since 2006.

ASA is working in the courts and in the halls of Congress to protect and expand patients? rights ? and we are making a difference. We have won important victories in court, made significant inroads in Congress, and helped reframe the national debate about medical cannabis. But we need your help to carry on. Please make a contribution to support ASA today.

Thank you,
 

Tobolo

Diamond Member
Aug 17, 2005
3,697
0
0
It means that California say it is not subject to the law/policy/whatever that allows for federal seizure of Mary Jane.

However, that won't mean squat to the DEA who will continue acting as they do now, at least until a federal court rules on the matter.
 

Dirigible

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2006
5,960
30
91
PSA: You can still be arrested, prosecuted, and sent to FPMITAP under Federal law, even if you comply with state medical marijuana laws.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Originally posted by: Dirigible
PSA: You can still be arrested, prosecuted, and sent to FPMITAP under Federal law, even if you comply with state medical marijuana laws.

This is not news to me.
 

Dirigible

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2006
5,960
30
91
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Dirigible
PSA: You can still be arrested, prosecuted, and sent to FPMITAP under Federal law, even if you comply with state medical marijuana laws.

This is not news to me.

With you starting your OP with "WTF does this mean?" I figured best to make sure you knew the quote in your OP didn't change that. In practical terms, what you quoted means nothing has changed.

ASA is celebrating the fact that state medical MJ laws aren't completely wiped out as null and void because of federal preemption. However, just because the SCOTUS declined to hear this one doesn't mean they won't hear the next relevant case and wipe out the state laws after all.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
13,650
201
101
It basically means the state laws continue to exist, and that as long as you abide by those laws you will not be charged with any crimes under state law. However, it means absolutely nothing with regard to enforcement of federal statues, which has not changed.

Summary: status quo.
 

DarrelSPowers

Senior member
Jul 9, 2008
781
1
0
What I got out of that little blurb was that the SCOTUS has better things to do than deal with some potheads.

Sounds like good news to me, but the DEA will still be out there doing their job.
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
17,958
138
106
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

....


Funny how you can be loaded up on half a dozen prescription meds and NOT get fired when MMJ will have the same medicinal effects.

 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,147
13,727
136
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

Sounds like the company was the dopey one there... couldn't go judging someone on the quality of their work rather than their urine, apparently.
 

oiprocs

Diamond Member
Jun 20, 2001
3,780
2
0
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

Weed is not dope. Crack/cocaine is dope.

Edit* Heroin is dope as well.
 

LtPage1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2004
6,311
2
0
It means that the Court decided to not rule on a medical marijuana case. The appeals court decided that federal anti-pot laws don't overturn state laws allowing medical use, and the Supreme Court decided to let that stand.
 

DarrelSPowers

Senior member
Jul 9, 2008
781
1
0
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

....


Funny how you can be loaded up on half a dozen prescription meds and NOT get fired when MMJ will have the same medicinal effects.

funny how you can be completely sober 6 days a week, and still lose your job.
 

joesmoke

Diamond Member
Nov 2, 2007
5,420
2
0
Originally posted by: oiprocs
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

Weed is not dope. Crack/cocaine is dope.

Edit* Heroin is dope as well.

no, not always... weed is dope if youre in the 50+ crowd... or if youre a knob
 

PepePeru

Diamond Member
Jul 21, 2005
3,846
0
0
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

....


Funny how you can be loaded up on half a dozen prescription meds and NOT get fired when MMJ will have the same medicinal effects.

exactly.

boner drug
anti-depressant
sedative
induces hunger
reduces pain
all "rolled" into one.
 

oiprocs

Diamond Member
Jun 20, 2001
3,780
2
0
Originally posted by: joesmoke
Originally posted by: oiprocs
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

Weed is not dope. Crack/cocaine is dope.

Edit* Heroin is dope as well.

no, not always... weed is dope if youre in the 50+ crowd... or if youre a knob

:laugh:
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
12,718
3,121
136
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

....


Funny how you can be loaded up on half a dozen prescription meds and NOT get fired when MMJ will have the same medicinal effects.

not to mention boozing it up as heavily as one wants as long as it is after leaving work.
 

40Hands

Diamond Member
Jun 29, 2004
5,042
0
71
Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: IGBT
..it still doesn't usurp drug testing i.e preemployment/post accident/safety sensitive. I recall a safety sensitve employee whom tested positive for dope(marijuana) and was promptly fired. He tried using the "medical marijuana" gag but ended up fired anyway. So he then had to go home to his family and explain why he lost his 70K a year job over "dope".

....


Funny how you can be loaded up on half a dozen prescription meds and NOT get fired when MMJ will have the same medicinal effects.

funny how you can be completely sober 6 days a week, and still lose your job.

:confused:

I'm guessing you're just being an idiot.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Originally posted by: IGBT
..get over it. it's DOPE.

It's also medicine to some people. I don't see why you can't get that in your head.


 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
13,650
201
101
Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Sounds like the company was the dopey one there... couldn't go judging someone on the quality of their work rather than their urine, apparently.

No, the company is simply being smart. Can you imagine what would happen if that employee later on caused some problem or accident? The company would be sued into oblivion for not taking action earlier. Why would the company risk anything to keep someone who has no regard for company rules?