Medical Marijuana I'm confused

[Vic]

Dud,

I know George Orwell's 1984 better than you could AFTER TRYING TO READ IT 40,000, TIMES.

-John

Which is why you referred to "Soma" above as being from Orwell's 1984 when there is not one reference to such a thing in that entire book, right?

While OTOH, the fictional drug (whose name is derived from an ancient Hindu drug BTW) is THE pivotal subject in Huxley's Brave New World.

Umm... yeah... BTW, I need to go down to the pharmacy to refill my script for soma... and Medicare pays for it, isn't that nice?

Dud.

 

[Zorkorist]

Soma is from Huxley's "Brave New World."

Whatever.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Obv you aren't on SOMA, or Medical Mrijuana, which is my point.

That the Government would like you to be (1984) is also, my point.

-John

 

[Carmen813]

Quite true. Also, chemo patients are some of the biggest benefactors of smoking grass. I never had chemo - thyroid cancer uses radioactive iodine only - but I've known a lot of people who have suffered through it. One of the biggest problems is weight loss and the attendant loss of an already-nuked immune system due to the malnutrition caused by extreme nausea. You can't eat anything and keep it down. Smoking grass prevents or minimizes that nausea and causes the munchies to boot, and for any friend going into chemo I recommend that he or she finds a safe source of grass. I also knew a girl with an inoperative brain tumor who found that grass gave better benefits with lower side effects (and way lower cost) than any medicine she had been prescribed, and smoking worked best because she too was prone to bouts of nausea. And my daughter, recently deceased, found that smoking grass helped more than her anti-spasming drugs with no side effects and also let her take less pain medication (she was crippled in an automobile accident.)

I won't say it's a wonder drug and I'd advocate eating rather than smoking it where practical, but it definitely has its uses. I've never used it (one of the few children of the sixties who can say that) and have no intention to do so even if it becomes legal in Tennessee, but if I were facing chemo I'd seek it out and smoke it.

Depends on the chemo really. Mine (ABVD, treatment for Hodgkin's Lymphoma) wasn't to bad. The anti-nausea meds were more than enough. I did need pain killers once in a while, but nothing more than vicodin. My wife on the other hand (AML, a type of leukemia) was receiving the Dilaudid several times a day...it's basically prescription heroin, and it was 6-7 times stronger then morphine. She was still hurting pretty bad.

My feeling is that marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco. I say legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. People take prescription drugs everyday that can have at least equivalent psychological and physical effects. And no, even when I was sick, I never tried it.

 

[Vic]

Obv you aren't on SOMA, or Medical Mrijuana, which is my point.

That the Government would like you to be (1984) is also, my point.

-John

Yeah, and you might benefit from a long toke.

STFU

BTW, I have the flu right now, and the readily available OTC drug I'm self-medicating with right now contains, like most cold medicines, a pharmaceutical derivative of the actual Soma from ancient times, which was natural ephedrine.

 

[Vic]

Depends on the chemo really. Mine (ABVD, treatment for Hodgkin's Lymphoma) wasn't to bad. The anti-nausea meds were more than enough. I did need pain killers once in a while, but nothing more than vicodin. My wife on the other hand (AML, a type of leukemia) was receiving the Dilaudid several times a day...it's basically prescription heroin, and it was 6-7 times stronger then morphine. She was still hurting pretty bad.

My feeling is that marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco. I say legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. People take prescription drugs everyday that can have at least equivalent psychological and physical effects. And no, even when I was sick, I never tried it.

Why not? A good friend of mine suffered (and eventually died) from lymphoma, and medical marijuana was pretty much the best thing that ever happened to her. The anti-nausea meds did nothing. Sadly, there was no cure, but at least there was something to ease her suffering along the way.

Glad to hear that both you and your wife are (from the sounds of your post) doing better. It's a horrible disease. Maybe Zorkoist could use a 6 month long bout of puking car sickness, with no hope or prospect of salvation but death, to give him some perspective.

 

[Zorkorist]

Yeah, and my Mothers Doctor told her to get off he addicyion to it, and take another drug instead.

Enjoy your drug(s).

Personally, I am happy I take none.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Maybe Zorkoist could use a 6 month long bout of puking car sickness, with no hope or prospect of salvation but death, to give him some perspective.

Thanks a bunch, Vic.
-John

 

[Vic]

Yeah, and my Mothers Doctor told her to get off he addicyion to it, and take another drug instead.

Enjoy your drug(s).

Personally, I am happy I take none.

-John

Oh really? So no alcohol? no aspirin, tylenol, or ibuprofen? No sugar even?

And even assuming your absurd claim here is true, how does your personal choice in this regard factor into your position that govt should be empowered to force everyone to do the same?

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. Go home, child. Before I smack you upside the head with your own ignorance some more, and make you look even more like a pathetic fool than I already have.

 

[Vic]

Thanks a bunch, Vic.
-John

Hey, someone as ignorantly self-righteous as you have been in this thread deserves all this and more. You judge others who roads you've never walked, I merely suggested it might be to your personal enlightenment to have to walk such a road. That's a far far kinder fate than what you've dictated for others.

 

[Tristicus]

As long as the government doesn't control it, I don't care what they do with it. I can get it either way, and many others can and do.

 

[TechBoyJK]

oh gosh vic keep going this is becoming entertaining

 

[Carmen813]

Why not? A good friend of mine suffered (and eventually died) from lymphoma, and medical marijuana was pretty much the best thing that ever happened to her. The anti-nausea meds did nothing. Sadly, there was no cure, but at least there was something to ease her suffering along the way.

Glad to hear that both you and your wife are (from the sounds of your post) doing better. It's a horrible disease. Maybe Zorkoist could use a 6 month long bout of puking car sickness, with no hope or prospect of salvation but death, to give him some perspective.

Honestly, I'm just not into drugs. I wasn't really comfortable taking chemotherapy or painkillers. I took them because I had to. I wasn't really in horrible pain and chemotherapy actually made me feel better because I had B symptoms. I was also still in Air Force ROTC at the time and I didn't want to risk a felony for something I really didn't need. One of my chemotherapy drugs (bleomycin) also was pretty harsh on my lungs, so smoking would have made it even worse (I still nearly vomit whenever I inhale second hand smoke, even if its just lingering on someone's clothes). The steroids they had me on did more than enough to increase my appetite.

I don't really begrudge others who choose to use marijuana though. I figure it's their own decision. I don't see it as any more harmful than alcohol or tobacco. It's a subject where I best think the decision is made by the individual, not the government.