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DZero said:
Just like Mali, that's the issue. Adreno wins since is open in that matter.
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No Mali is far behind Xclipse, and even Adreno which don't have custom drivers tend to lag behind Xclipse,

this is red dead redemption running on Exynos 1480


This is red dead redemption running on D1200


This is same game running in snapdragon 7+ gen 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6P1Jhc8-vd4

As you can see there E1480 manage to match much faster sd 7+ gen 2 and completely destroyed D1200 even though D1200 has slightly faster Gpu.
 
hemedans said:
No Mali is far behind Xclipse, and even Adreno which don't have custom drivers tend to lag behind Xclipse,

this is red dead redemption running on Exynos 1480


This is red dead redemption running on D1200


This is same game running in snapdragon 7+ gen 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6P1Jhc8-vd4

As you can see there E1480 manage to match much faster sd 7+ gen 2 and completely destroyed D1200 even though D1200 has slightly faster Gpu.
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Interesting:

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And even The E2200 which has overheating should do the trick.

Indeed, Mali is pure force, but only is stagnant in Android. That's why Mediatek wants to join nVIDIA on the PC quest.
 
Rumour:
Mediatek Dimensity 9500 will adopt 2+6 CPU (Cortex X930 + Cortex A730), and use TSMC N3P process
Dimensity 9500

2x Cortex X930 @ ~4 GHz.
6x Cortex A730 @ ~3.5 GHz.
TSMC N3P.

Dimensity 9400

1x Cortex X925 (2 MB L2) @ 3.6 GHz.
3x Cortex X4 (1 MB L2) @ 3.3 GHz.
4x Cortex A720 (512 KB L2) @ 2.4 GHz.
TSMC N3E.

Dimensity 9300

1x Cortex X4 (1 MB L2) @ 3.25 GHz.
3x Cortex X4 (512 KB L2) @ 2.8 GHz.
4x Cortex A720 (256 KB L2) @ 2.0 GHz.
TSMC N4P.

Cache sizes of 9500 CPU are unknown, but it can be expected to be similar or higher than 9400.

What is immediately noticeable is that 9500 changes to a 2+6 design from the 1+3+4 design of 9400. You might think they are simply copying the 2+6 design introduced by 8 Elite, but the reasons are quite sophisticated.

Cortex X930 and A730 are ARMv9.4 cores. So they cannot mixed and match with ARMv9.2 cores (X925, X4, A725, A720). Dimensity 9500 will also adopt SME, which necessitates that all the cores in the CPU should be of the X930/A730/A530 generation.

If Mediatek was to keep using the 1+3+4 design, they'll have to use 4 X930 cores and 4 A730 cores. X930 is huge (12 wide decoder), has high licensing cost, and it consumes a ton of power. So having 4 X930 cores in a smartphone SoC is unsustainable. This is why Mediatek opted for a 2+6 design.

Having 6 A730 cores is great for power efficiency (at the lower section of the curve), because they have less leakage than Cortex X cores. You can see this in Geekerwan's video on 8400, where it has even better power efficiency than 9400 and 8 Elite at the lower section of the power curve, thanks to the 8 A725 cores.

What will the final performance of 9500 CPU look like? It is difficult to estimate the multi-core, but we can expect the single-core to reach about 4000 points in Geekbench 6, which is 33% higher than 9400 (+10% IPC, +10% clock, +10% SME).
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Not sure about the authenticity of this rumour (OP doesn't name a source).
 
Redmi Turbo 4 has issues with the performance on all cores...

www.gizmochina.com

Redmi Turbo 4 with Dimensity 8400 on Geekbench: How does it fare against Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, 8 Gen 2? - Gizmochina

MediaTek recently unveiled the Dimensity 8400 chipset, which is the first-ever chip in its segment. The new chip will drive the Redmi Turbo 4 and Realme Neo 7 SE, which are expected to launch in January 2025 in China. The Poco X7 Pro heading to the global market will also have the new chip, as […]
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DZero said:
Redmi Turbo 4 has issues with the performance on all cores...

www.gizmochina.com

Redmi Turbo 4 with Dimensity 8400 on Geekbench: How does it fare against Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, 8 Gen 2? - Gizmochina

MediaTek recently unveiled the Dimensity 8400 chipset, which is the first-ever chip in its segment. The new chip will drive the Redmi Turbo 4 and Realme Neo 7 SE, which are expected to launch in January 2025 in China. The Poco X7 Pro heading to the global market will also have the new chip, as […]
www.gizmochina.com www.gizmochina.com

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What do you mean? It beats 8 Gen 2 in multi-core workload. Single-core could be a bit better.
 
Tup3x said:
Has MediaTek made any official claims about the performance in Geekbench? I haven't seen any.
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Yeah, if you go back a few pages there is a slide showing GB6 MT to about 6800. But this phone must be a lower bin or lower power limit.
 
mvprod123 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1876807460096233680
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So, Nvidia made the decision to call the CPU “Grace” even though it is a separate, joint with Mediatek design with different cores and a reduced memory interface. They are getting people excited thinking they are getting what the enterprise buyers are getting.

There is going to be a rude awakening when the details are revealed. But the beauty of being so far ahead of the competition is Nvidia can abuse people’s hopes and aspirations. Many will be outraged at being misled, but then still buy it.
 
The Hardcard said:
So, Nvidia made the decision to call the CPU “Grace” even though it is a separate, joint with Mediatek design with different cores and a reduced memory interface. They are getting people excited thinking they are getting what the enterprise buyers are getting.

There is going to be a rude awakening when the details are revealed. But the beauty of being so far ahead of the competition is Nvidia can abuse people’s hopes and aspirations. Many will be outraged at being misled, but then still buy it.
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Naming is almost like Blackwell I think. As I understand the two different Blackwell lines are not very similar. Do they even have the same ISA? I guess there are two lines in the Grace family now.

I agree it could be misleading.
 
Jensen makes more comments on the 20-core (10 x925 plus 10 x725) CPU in Project Digits. Not only is there a possibility that Nvidia may launch the CPU in other products, but apparently Mediatek can independently sell it. Since it appears to be done, Mediatek is probably working their options right now.
 
Mmm.. interesting, maybe Mediatek will work in the lower tiers and with nVIDIA in the higher ones?
I mean.

Mediatek and NVIDIA will launch their joint processors for the premium processors, but for the lowest tiers will release the D9400, the D8400 or the future D7400 in the lower prices?

Ex. for the prices of the processor.
- Premium (with nVIDIA) costing USD 250
- High (D9400) costing USD 170
- Mid (D8400) costing USD 120
- Low (D7400) costing USD 75

EDIT: Giving more context about the D7400. Expecting going dual Quad, A720 and A520 with Quad or even Penta Mali GPU for desktop.
 
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MediaTek Dimensity 9500 to beat the Snapdragon 8 Elite 2 to launch

According to a new leak, MediaTek will launch its Dimensity 9500 flagship chipset earlier than the Snapdragon 8 Elite 2—despite the Qualcomm chipset already being scheduled to debut earlier than it typically does.
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WTH :sweat:. Mediatek might launch D9500 earlier than Qualcomm 8 Elite 2. Unlike Qualcomm, Mediatek cannot pre-announce that they are launching WoA APU before Microsoft's announcement of WoA12. That's mean they could launch D9500 only....
 
With ARM officially announced C1 series, we could correctly pinpoint the CPU cores of Mediatek Dimensity 9500:
  • 1 x C1-Ultra 4.21GHz
  • 3 x C1-Premium 3.5GHz
  • 4 x C1-Pro 2.7GHz
  • SME2 Enabled
  • GPU - Mali G1-Ultra - 12 shader cores and RTUv2
 
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MediaTek Develops Chip Utilizing TSMC’s 2nm Process, Achieving Milestones in Performance andPower Efficiency

MediaTek Develops Chip Utilizing TSMC’s 2nm Process, Achieving Milestones in Performance andPower Efficiency
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HSINCHU, Taiwan – Sept. 16, 2025 – MediaTek today announced that it is among the first companies to partner with TSMC (TWSE: 2330, NYSE: TSM) to successfully develop a chip featuring the enhanced N2P process, taping out MediaTek’s flagship system-on-chip (SoC) with volume production expected late next year.
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Compared with the current-generation N3E process, N2P users can expect to see as much as an 18 percent increase in performance at the same power, an approximately 36 percent power reduction at the same speed, and a 1.2x increase in logic density.
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Tigerick said:
With ARM officially announced C1 series, we could correctly pinpoint the CPU cores of Mediatek Dimensity 9500:
  • 1 x C1-Ultra 4.21GHz
  • 3 x C1-Premium 3.5GHz
  • 4 x C1-Pro 2.7GHz
  • SME2 Enabled
  • GPU - Mali G1-Ultra - 12 shader cores and RTUv2
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Mediatek officially unveiled D9500 with GB6 ST scores over 4000+. The scores are from the lab, that's mean the real-world scores might be lower. No matter what, new generation of SoC (fabbed by N3P) from Apple, Mediatek and Qualcomm are all hitting 4000 points in ST GB6. And they are all having SoC for PC market, let's see how Gorgon Point and PTL scores... 😎

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