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mercanucaribe

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It's great. For one thing it's humane since they aren't animals. For another, it will use a lot less resources- meat is hugely wasteful of soil, fertilizer, water, and land. It takes 30+ acres of land (in Central Texas) and a decade to grow a cow, while artificial meat could be grown directly from the plant protein.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
It's great. For one thing it's humane since they aren't animals. For another, it will use a lot less resources- meat is hugely wasteful of soil, fertilizer, water, and land. It takes 30+ acres of land (in Central Texas) and a decade to grow a cow, while artificial meat could be grown directly from the plant protein.

Agreed. This sounds like meat that vegetarians and even the extremists at PETA could get behind. (Though the latter, they'd probably get upset because it's like putting blood in front of a shark - vegetarians will taste the artificial meat, become totally crazed, and go out and kill animals with their bare hands.)

Only thing about this lab-grown meat that comes to mind - it might need electrical stimulation or something, or else it's going to be all squishy....unless....
There was something in Scientific American about a single gene that controls the way muscles are built. This gene makes muscles atrophy when they're not used, in order to conserve energy. Remove this gene from the lab-grown meat, and maybe it'll just grow all nice and....well, the way we're used to meat being.
 

Kadarin

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I wonder if some of the militant vegan PETA fanatics would switch to eating the stuff since no animals would have been harmed by the production of it?
 

everman

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As long as it tastes like the real thing, I really don't care if it's from an animal or not. It will probably be a while before we have lab meat as good as the top grade meat.
 

blue1friday2

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Whatever... you know what? That's awesome! I would totally eat it! Meaty goodness sans guilt. That sounds good to me. It's not like everything I eat isn't horrible anyway. I don't think that there is anything that could be considered real food in Ramen and oranges are totally bombarded with pesticides and fertilizer anyway.

I say test-tube meat sounds yummy to me.
 

NiteWulf

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Originally posted by: Juno
making meats? bleh, i'll go for organic meats instead!

All meat is organic ;)

Test tube meat sounds good to me. Anything that can increase food supply is a good thing. Maybe they can build a few meat factories in Africa and other poor places so people can have a good source of protein
 

Eli

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Sounds good to me.

It could very well be more "perfect" than animal meat.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: NiteWulf
Originally posted by: Juno
making meats? bleh, i'll go for organic meats instead!

All meat is organic ;)

Test tube meat sounds good to me. Anything that can increase food supply is a good thing. Maybe they can build a few meat factories in Africa and other poor places so people can have a good source of protein

Well you know the meat has to be grown from some other food right? It doesn't just make meat out of thin air.
 

AbsolutDealage

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Originally posted by: Squisher
I want a 20 oz Filet Mignon.

The problem with this cultured meat is that the fat content, in their words, will be that of salmon. Not that there is anything wrong with salmon, mind you, it's just that really good beef contains quite a bit of intra-muscular fat.

The more fat that is marbled inside the muscle, the better the piece of meat. Taking away the fat and leaving only the muscle will leave you with something that tastes like an overdone sirloin... tough as leather and bone dry. That might be OK for ground beef (you would need to supplement the fat during cooking), but far from a nice juicy steak.
 

oboeguy

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As a vegetarian, I am truly amused by the "ick" reaction of you omnivores. It's somehow more palatable to waste huge amounts of energy and resources raising an animal to kill for your meat? Oy!
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I wonder if some of the militant vegan PETA fanatics would switch to eating the stuff since no animals would have been harmed by the production of it?

Heck, if anything, it would be protecting animals from harm.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: notfred
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If the taste, texture, and smell are the same when it gets to me, I could care less where it came from, although I'd prefer to not know if it was ground up bugs.

Hmm, I might prefer ground up bugs than lab-meat. At least bugs are naturally occuring.

So?

They (bugs) probably don't cause cancer or anything. (I know there are naturally occuring things that cause cancer, like uranium and asbestos, but I can't think of any naturally occurring meats that cause cancer). Who knows what wierd lab-meat will do to you.

How could meat grown from chicken cells possibly cause cancer?

He lives in California. :p


Seriously, if successful, this could be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: oboeguy
As a vegetarian, I am truly amused by the "ick" reaction of you omnivores. It's somehow more palatable to waste huge amounts of energy and resources raising an animal to kill for your meat? Oy!
Tsk. While I applaud this development, I must say that I dislike this false "waste" argument used by some vegans. You can't grow corn and vegetables on arid ranchland.
 

So

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: oboeguy
As a vegetarian, I am truly amused by the "ick" reaction of you omnivores. It's somehow more palatable to waste huge amounts of energy and resources raising an animal to kill for your meat? Oy!
Tsk. While I applaud this development, I must say that I dislike this false "waste" argument used by some vegans. You can't grow corn and vegetables on arid ranchland.

Plus, it's not like the world has a problem feeding itself today. People are starving because of supply problems and because warlords deny people food, not because there isn't enough to go around.
 

Accipiter22

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"Home chefs could make meat in a countertop device the size of a coffee maker. Before bed, throw starter cells and a package of growth medium into the meat maker and wake up to harvest fresh sausage for breakfast."

I make meat on a regular basis