Meaningless...

[Maleficus]

Originally posted by: AShadeOfClear

Meaninglessness can be very liberating in a way. What a burden having a purpose must be. Embrace your meaninglessness and be free.

I think lirion is right. Our ego's live in a constant state of desire and fear, The ego's ultimate fear is annihilation. The key is to not find yourself in your ego, in the world of gain and loss, of birth and death. Liberate yourself from your burden by dying psychogically. Die to all of your expectations, responsibilites, and end the resistance that you feel inside. Accept everything the present moment contains as if you have chosen it. It makes no sense to resist the reality of what is.

Well, It's easier said, I am not able to do this.

you do that and you get complete apathy and loss of desire to do anything. You get what i am.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Roger
You are experiancing the classic symptoms of chemical imbalance in your brain. (Depression)

Go see a doctor.

Yes. Please join the millions of fine people who also cannot last a week without their daily fix from Pfizer and all the other so helpful pharmaceutical companies who love and care about us so much. Become a slave to the chronic "chemical imbalances" that will become the bane of the new millenium.

That feeling of helplessness, despair, and the horrifying realization that there's just no meaning, no purpose to our existence is the very reason why Man invented religion; to provide a false sense of comfort, of security, and the "knowledge" that once we're gone, we'll be "in a better place". Yet it provides you no comfort, no solace. You are lost, somewhere between Love and Self-Actualization on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, and desperately need to find yourself.

Medication, and lots of it, is the answer.

 

[AShadeOfClear]

you have to find something you enjoy. Society seems to try and tell us when we should feel good and what defines "success." It is all a bunch of garbage though because those things are different for all of us. A major problem I see right now, especially in America is this quest for crap. Everyone has to have more and more things that they don't need. Then one day you realize that things don't make you happy. Also, a lot of the things people spend their time in are pretty worthless also. Say spending a ton of time working a cubicle job in a corporation, in that situation you lose one of the most satisfying things in life, creativity. I'm not saying that listening to music, reading books, or watching movies and such is worthless, but creating something of your own is infinitely more satisfying. So I suggest you find a creative outlet for how you feel and express your feelings, your post here is a start.

Yeah, I mean really. Sometimes I think, "What am i doing?!?" Why are these situations in my life? Why do I make myself do things that I don't want to do? Because I think it will make me better somehow. What is important in life? Think of what you consider important and think about what you would have considered if you were born 200 years earlier or more. How does that differ, does it sound better or worse? What if you were born in a culture that doesn't value money and posessions? Can you imagine the way your life could be completely different just based on these circumstances? Sometimes I think, just because everybody else is doing something doesn't make it right.

"Those who have not found their true wealth, which is the radiant joy of being and the deep, unshakable peace that comes with it are beggars, even if they have great material wealth. They are looking outside for scraps of pleasure or fulfillment, for validation, security or love, while they have a treasure within that not only includes all those things but is infinitely greater than anything the world can offer."

 

[Brutuskend]

I've pretty much felt the same way for a LONG LONG time...

Things are fixing to get worse for me here real soon.

Wish me luck.

And good luck to you as well!

 

[IGBT]

Do a little research on SAM-e (s-adenosylmethionine). Live as long as you can..to do all the good that you can. And take comfort in the knowledge that you did your best.....

 

[Turin39789]

Too tired to give you any coherent advice of merit. But I will chime in with the others in saying that I have felt the same or nearly so as you for some time now. I suppose the one thing I found, or told myself I found, that was worth it in this world was love. Cheesy yes, but satisfying. The fact that she just left me doesn't do much for me though

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: idNut
Been having a very hard time getting along lately. I find everything pointless and in vain. Why experience joy or happiness when it will be washed away at our death? All of the pleasure will be forgotten and lost; our meaning lost. All I think is nothing's essential. I can't think about anything else because when I'm trying to concentrate on something that requires thought I just think to myself "None of this will matter when I die. How will I know what goes on?" and madness sweeps over me. To know that my existence is completely futile brings me nothing but sheer misery. I have nothing to take pride in since it will be gone in mere seconds.

I haven't been happy in God knows when. All I've felt is depression and emptiness. Everyone tells me "Hey man, go out and get wasted. Forget about things, you're too sensitive.". That or I get the occasional "You're insane.". I do, in fact, lose touch with reality from time to time; so deep in the thoughts of nothingness that I forget this existence and when I come back I am shocked and confused. I sink in the turmoil because it seems my memory has been erased and then it all comes back at once as if nothing had happened. I told my psychologist about this but he didn't seem to take it as a serious "threat". I believe dysthymia fits my description: persistent depression that has symptoms such as fatigue, low self-esteem, insomnia, and appetite disturbances but is not severe enough to amount to a psychosis.

Don't know what's wrong with me. I seem to envy people and hate them for their happiness. I think I'm corrupt and Satan is playing with me. I seem to have a duel of personalities; one that desires happiness and righteousness and the other which yearns for hatred and misery. The truth is stretched with these "episodes" phasing in and out of me. I am not myself but yet I am. Any opinions would be welcomed but keep it civil, I don't feel like being insulted. I don't even know why I'm posting this. Lost all of my friends and have nowhere to turn.

i think you might have general anxiety disorder. you worry about stuff that you dont even need to be worried about. or either that, you may be depressed. why dont you talk to a professional about this. no shame in going to see a professional.

 

[Maleficus]

Originally posted by: IGBT
Do a little research on SAM-e (s-adenosylmethionine). Live as long as you can..to do all the good that you can. And take comfort in the knowledge that you did your best.....

great you did all these wonderful things, to someone that doesnt believe in religion what good does that do you or anyone?

 

[Electric Amish]

Life is, in general, meaningless and pointless. Accept it.

My personal mantra: The people around me are more important than myself.

amish

 

[Maleficus]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Life is, in general, meaningless and pointless. Accept it.

My personal mantra: The people around me are more important than myself.

amish

If life is meaningless and pointless why is anyone important and what makes one more important than the other?

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Maleficus

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Life is, in general, meaningless and pointless. Accept it.

My personal mantra: The people around me are more important than myself.

amish

If life is meaningless and pointless why is anyone important and what makes one more important than the other?

In the end you die. Period. There's no grand finale or anything. There's no end goal to attain. Therefore, I do my best to make the people that I interact with's stay as good as possible, usually at the expense of my happiness.

amish

 

[BigJohnKC]

Okay, here comes the religious answer. If you don't want to continue reading, don't, but God has given meaning to my life, and he can give meaning to yours if you are willing. And please don't just use this as an opportunity to flame religion - I'm just trying to help a guy find meaning in something.

Believe it or not, there is an entire book of the Bible devoted to this very subject of "meaninglessness." The book of Ecclesiastes talks for chapters about how life and everything in it is meaningless. It is a book of despair, helplessness. But it provides a solution as well. I'll admit that at times I have the same feelings as you, but I personally find solace in God. I'll tell you why, from my own experience. I live for Jesus. I know that's a cliche, true, but it's part of my life. I asked Jesus into my heart (and BTW, when I say heart, I don't mean the muscle that pumps blood - it is a figurative saying meaning the center of my being) for the first time when I was in the second grade. I knew what it meant on a very basic level at that time, but that decision has come to mean co much more to me now.

As a Christian, my meaning lies in the fact that I know there is a heaven, and that I will be allowed to go there when I die because Jesus paid my way by dying on the cross for my sins. But that only covers my final destination. What gives meaning to my every day life is my desire to spread this good news to everyone. I live a life that is probably very similar to yours - 8-5 job, place to live, car, rent and utilities to be paid, etc. But every chance I get I tell people about how living as a believer in Jesus has brought meaning to my life.

If you're interested, please PM me. If you want to tell me how it's all a bunch of bull, go ahead, that's your right to have an opinion. Have a great day...

 

[lebe0024]

That's only the beginning! What does ANYTHING at all matter? Not only your life, but others. In the end, we all die. AND in the end, the sun will die, and eventually the universe will become a homogenous haze of radioactive gas. No one will remember us, or you.

AND, since we're all materialists here, let me continue. Everything you do (even your despair) is simply a product of a series of chemical reactions that all started with the big bang (as far as we know). You are not (nor is your concious) above nature in anyway, but rather a product of it. I didn't "choose" to type this, it was all determined to happen from the beginning. None of us truly "controls" our lives. The only reason I do the things I do is because of the way by brain was created at birth, and what I experience through my 5 senses. It's all just a function.

Your life is worthless. It's no more valuable than the wax in my ears. It wouldn't matter if someone blew my brains out. Right?


The above is bullsh!t. You know it is. There was only one person that was ever truly considered as nothing so that we may be cherished by God. He got what he didn't deserve so that we could get what we don't deserve.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: lebe0024
That's only the beginning! What does ANYTHING at all matter? Not only your life, but others. In the end, we all die. AND in the end, the sun will die, and eventually the universe will become a homogenous haze of radioactive gas. No one will remember us, or you.

AND, since we're all materialists here, let me continue. Everything you do (even your despair) is simply a product of a series of chemical reactions that all started with the big bang (as far as we know). You are not (nor is your concious) above nature in anyway, but rather a product of it. I didn't "choose" to type this, it was all determined to happen from the beginning. None of us truly "controls" our lives. The only reason I do the things I do is because of the way by brain was created at birth, and what I experience through my 5 senses. It's all just a function.

Your life is worthless. It's no more valuable than the wax in my ears. It wouldn't matter if someone blew my brains out. Right?


The above is bullsh!t. You know it is. There was only one person that was ever truly considered as nothing so that we may be cherished by God. He got what he didn't deserve so that we could get what we don't deserve.

When you say the "above" is bullsh!t, do you mean your post or BigJohnKC's? Cause I actually agreed with some of what you said in your post.

 

[BigJohnKC]

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: lebe0024
That's only the beginning! What does ANYTHING at all matter? Not only your life, but others. In the end, we all die. AND in the end, the sun will die, and eventually the universe will become a homogenous haze of radioactive gas. No one will remember us, or you.

AND, since we're all materialists here, let me continue. Everything you do (even your despair) is simply a product of a series of chemical reactions that all started with the big bang (as far as we know). You are not (nor is your concious) above nature in anyway, but rather a product of it. I didn't "choose" to type this, it was all determined to happen from the beginning. None of us truly "controls" our lives. The only reason I do the things I do is because of the way by brain was created at birth, and what I experience through my 5 senses. It's all just a function.

Your life is worthless. It's no more valuable than the wax in my ears. It wouldn't matter if someone blew my brains out. Right?


The above is bullsh!t. You know it is. There was only one person that was ever truly considered as nothing so that we may be cherished by God. He got what he didn't deserve so that we could get what we don't deserve.

When you say the "above" is bullsh!t, do you mean your post or BigJohnKC's? Cause I actually agreed with some of what you said in your post.

Considering lebe0024's posting history, plus his last comment, I think he meant his post was the aforementioned descriptive adjective.

 

[idNut]

Well, a lot of good posts here. Lot of depth that I hadn't plummeted to. There is too much rushing through my head right now to type anything down that would arose fascination so spare me some time to calm down from an interesting day. A lot of Godly and godless people here; I favor the Godly but for the most part both groups seem to agree that life is futile. Optimisim is in fact self-deception if you ask me. Pretty depressing.

 

[jjones]

When thinking about life, keep this in mind: You're just passing through, enjoy the scenery.

 

[lebe0024]

I definetely used to believe in all the things I posted before, because I defintely above all else wanted to be a consistent materialist. Dont we all? Everything was completely and equally meaningless. The only reason to keep on living was because of the stupid amusement of it.
I believed all this, of course, until the day I saw complete, unique, and pure beauty three years ago. If the point of life is to flaunder through it, enjoying the scenery as you go, then I saw the most beautiful landscape ever concieved. Its beauty was so great, I stopped everything. I stopped despairing; I stopped feeling meaningless; I stopped worrying about my stupid idea of existence. Everything that used to amuse me ceased to even enter my mind. Nothing else mattered except to keep my eyes on this wonderful new thing.

If I could give you one piece of advice: Find this thing that I speak of. Search for it with all your being, and you will find it.