Me wonder's the reason why nader is running?

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Mookow

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cmp1223
ANy one else see him on Bill Maher? That candanian lady was right, Nader could be much more effective if instead of running he used his "control" over that 1 to 2 percent that follows him to sawy the election. He could challege both the candidate's on the issues, hopefully have them open up more, and then tell his people who to vote for. In such a close election, both parties would probably listen to him.

Hahahahahaha. You tell good jokes. Oh, wait... I guess that wasnt supposed to be a joke.

Do you really think any significant number of Green Party members would consider voting for the Republican Party? Whichout the RP having to change its platform so much that it would lose much of its traditional support base?

The only pressure Nader can apply with his political stance is precisely what he is doing now: preventing the Democrats from moving too far to the center for fear of that causing many of its supporters to vote Green. He is anchoring the Dems a little further left than they would otherwise be in this election.
 

raildogg

Lifer
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the more choices we have the better, cmon I thought you democrats would've supported this. only democrats dont vote for nader, so do republicans and independants
 

Infohawk

Lifer
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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: Infohawk
If you guys want third parties change to a run-off or proportional system.

that would require a change in the political system. Dilute the power the big boys have.

Will never happen unless the American public feels that the existing system is so abused that they toss out the idiots that control all facets.


It has a better chance of happening then the pipe dreams of a third party popping up in the current system.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: preslove


Perot=success
Nader=ranting asshat
any questions?

Yep...that about sums it up!

:disgust:

If you knew anything about the history of third parties and their candidates, then you would know that the successful ones pressured either one or both of the main parties into adopting some of their main planks.

here is something simple for you guys to understand...

1992, Perot=both parties adopt a balanced budget platform. Budget is balanced withing 6 years.

1968, 1972=Ex-democratic gov. of Alabama George Wallace runs for the Independence Party. Republicans subsequently adopt his rhetoric and eventually take the South away from the Dems.

1890-1892=Populist party, the most successful actual third party ever, they win a couple of states in 1892, and eventually are absorbed by the Democratic party, thereby creating the Democratic party of wilson, FDR, JFK, etc.

A third party is a PRESSURE GROUP, not a viable alternative to the two major parties. If your issues aren't adopted, you are useless. Nader has no actual issues, hence his uselessness.


Uh, actually, I was agreeing with you. :)

I was frowning at the assrat Nader! :p

But Nader is right on one thing....both parties are in bed with corporate America...without a doubt!
 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: raildogg
the more choices we have the better, cmon I thought you democrats would've supported this. only democrats dont vote for nader, so do republicans and independants

You'd be screaming bloody murder if he was taking votes from Bush.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: raildogg
the more choices we have the better, cmon I thought you democrats would've supported this. only democrats dont vote for nader, so do republicans and independants

You'd be screaming bloody murder if he was taking votes from Bush.

nuh uh