Me and MSI just dont get along

[oldfart]

Well, I put together the MSI 865PE Neo. Hit the power and something smoked. Big zap, sounded bad. Not sure what it was yet.

I'm putting it back together with the Albatron 845PE now. I'm praying that it didn't fry my CPU, ram, PS. etc.

This really sux. I've built I cant tell you how many systems and I've never had anything like this happen. I got it from Newegg and hear their RMA policy is good. I guess I'll get to see.

Needless to say, I wont be getting another MSI to replace it.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

maybe it was the psu, ive had one die on me (like 10 seconds after getting into windows lol...)

 

[oldfart]

Hmm. It seems like it may be the PS. The board looks fine, but the PS smells cooked. This PS was perfectly fine with my last two mobos and it smokes the instant I power up this MSI board? I dont get it. I looked over the board and dont see anything wrong with it. Nothing obviously smoked anyway.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

sometimes its not obvious
for example, i have a psu (some generic 250W) and an Asus A7V sitting in my junk pile which are fried
the mobo has no visible signs of being fried, but im gonna say that it is as it wont power on no matter what hardware i stick in it
hte psu is dead for sure (saw the actual sparks when it died heh)

maybe try the psu wihtout the mobo by connecting a wire from the green lead to any black lead in the atx connector and plugging it in?

 

[oldfart]

I'll try that. Green to any black. The PS should come on at that point? (fans spinning?)

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

yup
green to any black
make sure the switch is off in the back to begin with

so hook up wires, plug in psu, throw switch on back from off to on and it should start up (if its not fried)

 

[oldfart]

Tried it. Its fried.

You ever see a mobo fry a PS before? Man, if my CPU or ram, HD or anything else got fried, I'll be livid. Just so happens I have a new case that somes with a PS on the way. If I'm lucky, it will be here tomorrow. I'm putting the Albatron 845PE in it and will get my system back up and running.

I'll RMA the mobo. No way I'm going to try it again!

Thanks for the help

 

[LastRide]

Thats what I am wondering if a mobo can fry a power supply.I would assume it can.Oldfart,maybe open up the PSU and look inside if something looks burnt or smells since its toast anyways.

 

[THUGSROOK]

:Q

dont forget to salvage the fan, grill, fan screws, and molex ends

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
:Q

dont forget to salvage the fan, grill, fan screws, and molex ends

AHHHH hehehe.. scrounge whatever you can.. right?

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: LastRide
Thats what I am wondering if a mobo can fry a power supply.I would assume it can.Oldfart,maybe open up the PSU and look inside if something looks burnt or smells since its toast anyways.

Well, judging by what happened to me, Yes a mobo can fry a PS :| I dont want to open it up. I think it is under warrantee from Antec and I wouldn't want to void that. It does have a fried smell

I guess it could be coincidence, but it doesn't seem likely.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

if you do decide to look inside, make sure you dont touch anything physically
them caps can kill ya

 

[LastRide]

Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
if you do decide to look inside, make sure you dont touch anything physically
them caps can kill ya

I hereby sentence oldfart to death by electrocution for buying another MSI..LOL.See what happens when you try to save money.I just hope your other parts are ok.:Q

 

[oldfart]

You know, I always try to keep an open mind. My last couple MSI boards didn't blow up, but they were buggy and poor overclockers. I've seen countless posts here of people having trouble with them. But supposedly they changed and these were great boards. I see tons of problems from people trying to overclock them. Same old stuff. Then this happens. MSI..never again and this time I mean it. I dont know why I even tried.

 

[LastRide]

I had an MSI K7T Turbo Raid and it was a reliable stable board for me.Never game me any problems what so ever.I tried overclocking with it a bit but the CPU I had at the time AMD Thunderbird 1.2GHz wasn't a good overclocker.The 1.33 or 1.4 AYHJA Y stepping was at the time.

 

[First]

Ah ha, I'm not crazy afterall! My Enermax 350W PSU was unable to power up the Soyo and ASUS 875P boards, and took 3 seconds to power up all 5 of the 875P boards I've tested (ABIT, Gigabyte, ASUS, Soyo, MSI). I tried an Allied 300W PSU and all was well, but the 3 second delay remained, though it was inconsistent.

Could some 875P boards be especially sensitive to certain PSUs like the ECS K7S5A was?

 

[oldfart]

Hard to remember if there was a pause. The case was still open cause of the new build. I hit the button, and didn't hear any fans spinning. The ZAP! sound came shortly afterwards. It didn't seem like 3 seconds though. maybe .5 - 1??

 

[LastRide]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Ah ha, I'm not crazy afterall! My Enermax 350W PSU was unable to power up the Soyo and ASUS 875P boards, and took 3 seconds to power up all 5 of the 875P boards I've tested (ABIT, Gigabyte, ASUS, Soyo, MSI). I tried an Allied 300W PSU and all was well, but the 3 second delay remained, though it was inconsistent.

Could some 875P boards be especially sensitive to certain PSUs like the ECS K7S5A was?

Could very well be.I find the quality control and testing to be poor nowadays from what it used to be.You never seen this many problems with mobo's 2-3 years ago.

 

[Wingznut]

<-- Not a fan of MSI, either. I'm not sure what would pursuade me to purchase another MSI board in this lifetime.

Not that I hate their products, or I think they are horrible... It's just that there are a number of better manufacturers out there.

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Ah ha, I'm not crazy afterall! My Enermax 350W PSU was unable to power up the Soyo and ASUS 875P boards, and took 3 seconds to power up all 5 of the 875P boards I've tested (ABIT, Gigabyte, ASUS, Soyo, MSI). I tried an Allied 300W PSU and all was well, but the 3 second delay remained, though it was inconsistent.

Could some 875P boards be especially sensitive to certain PSUs like the ECS K7S5A was?

you mean like a 3 second delay after you hit the power button til it actually powers for a cold boot?
yes this IC7 board does that too ~ using a 550w enermax.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Ah ha, I'm not crazy afterall! My Enermax 350W PSU was unable to power up the Soyo and ASUS 875P boards, and took 3 seconds to power up all 5 of the 875P boards I've tested (ABIT, Gigabyte, ASUS, Soyo, MSI). I tried an Allied 300W PSU and all was well, but the 3 second delay remained, though it was inconsistent.

Could some 875P boards be especially sensitive to certain PSUs like the ECS K7S5A was?

you mean like a 3 second delay after you hit the power button til it actually powers for a cold boot?
yes this IC7 board does that too ~ using a 550w enermax.

Yes.

Definitely going to investigate this further.

 

[Blain]

Oldfarts never learn... They just buy another MSI.

 

[oldfart]

Oh, that's nothing. I've had plenty of anti MSI posts. I see good old LXi was in that thread (that is an OLD thread!) LXi was a BIG fan of MSI and pimped those boards like no tomorrow. I always thought his uncle worked there or something.

I thought I was doing the right thing by giving them another shot. I would say my dislike for them is well founded. My latest exp just makes it worse although I'm sure this was just a bad board. The bad overclocking exp people are having with the MSI 865/875 boards is more damning as far as I'm concerned. Those guys could not put together a BIOS that wasn't buggy if their life depended on it.

 

[oldfart]

Abit IC7 has been ordered.

Now I have to find a new PS :|

 

[maxSe]

Dang... sorry to hear that oldfart. I was looking forward to seeing performance on 865PE...

Your ordeal reminded me of something very similar that happened to me (ironically, I used MSI board also :Q). It was MSI KT333 board. I remember putting it into the case and noticed that the board didn't have a hole for one of the mobo stand-offs in my case (near the edge). I had seen similar things with other boards, but I had no problem before, so I figure at least it'll give support for the board... WRONG! As soon as I powered on, same thing happened. Fans started to turn, etc., and then zap! I saw smoke from my PSU... Needless to say, killed both my board and PSU... Was any of mobo stand-offs touching the board where there weren't any holes?

On a brighter note, you'll be happy with IC7...