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MDY to pay Blizzard $6 Million in Damages

Oakenfold

Diamond Member
Glider is still running at this point. Not sure about this source, given that it is indeed legit, this will get interesting.

Details Below:

MDY Industries has agreed to pay World of Warcraft creator Blizzard $6,000,000 in damages arising from the use of MDY?s game bots in World of Warcraft, pending appeal. The court formalized this agreement with an Order and Stipulated Judgment (.pdf). Blizzard prevailed on several key issues at summary judgment earlier this year, setting up this stipulation regarding damages. Had MDY lost on its damages arguments at trial, MDY could have conceivably ended up owing Blizzard several times this amount.

This judgment does not entirely conclude the matter. Issues still slated for trial in January include whether MDY?s sales of Glider violated the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and whether MDY?s owner Michael Donnelly can be held personally liable for the $6,000,000 judgment.

Beyond trial, of course, there will almost certainly be an appeal to the 9th Circuit on the issue of liability, which would negate the stipulation, and thus the $6m damages judgment, if MDY prevails.

MDY did not formally concede that Blizzard would have prevailed at trial on all triable issues, but did agree ?that given the likelihood that some amount of damages would be awarded, a stipulated judgment for the amount of damages to which Blizzard is entitled to recover [...] is an appropriate method to resolve the issue of damages.?

For the background of this suit, see VB?s complete coverage of MDY v. Blizzard. Very briefly, Glider is a program that users run along with World of Warcraft. It automates key tasks in World of Warcraft, making it possible to play the game essentially unattended. Glider users can thus both harvest resources and generate high level characters without actually playing. Blizzard claimed that Glider violates Blizzard?s copyright when Glider copies World of Warcraft into the computer?s memory as part of its loading sequence, and prevailed on that claim, among others, earlier this year when the judge decided these issues at summary judgment. The issue of damages was to be tried in January, but this stipulated $6m judgment takes that issue off the table.

From the order:

1. Blizzard shall be entitled to recover the total sum of $6,000,000 as monetary damages for counts I, II and III of its Counterclaims and Third Party Complaint related to the sale of Glider up through and including September 1, 2008.
2. Blizzard shall not be entitled to double or triple recovery for counts I, II and III. That is, Blizzard shall be entitled to receive a total of $6,000,000 in damages for counts I, II and III. However, should liability on any one or two of the counts be reversed on appeal, any one of these counts independently supports the $6,000,000 award.
3. In the event that the Court determines that Michael Donnelly is personally liable, either individually or jointly and severally, under counts I, II, or III, this stipulation shall extend to him.
4. The parties shall submit their disputed and undisputed statements of facts and law related to the DMCA claim on September 10, 2008.
5. Counts V and VII of Blizzard?s Counterclaims and Third Party Complaint alleging trademark infringement and unjust enrichment are hereby dismissed by stipulation of the parties.

Trial on the remaining issues is scheduled for January 8, 2009.

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So they (almost)killed a major bot program? Good for Blizzard. Guess they can still do something right. 🙂
 
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.
 
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.

We have a winner!
:thumbsup:
Only time will tell how this gets spun, it isn't gonna be good that's for sure. 😉
 
So im assuming that the money collected will be disbursed to all active WoW subscribers during this time since really we are the ones who got screwed by the Botters...
 
Originally posted by: ksheets
So im assuming that the money collected will be disbursed to all active WoW subscribers during this time since really we are the ones who got screwed by the Botters...

Do you get any compensation when botters get banned, and purchase additional copies of WoW to start new accounts? 😉

Blizzard has quite the incentive to ban accounts, on top of stopping people from stealing their IP and violating their copyright :roll: they get the botters to go out and buy additional copies of their game. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.

This is nothing new. Try to make a Star Wars mod and see how fast Lucasarts shuts you down. 😉

The botting program is not building upon the game - it is violating the TOS. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: coloumb
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.

This is nothing new. Try to make a Star Wars mod and see how fast Lucasarts shuts you down. 😉

The botting program is not building upon the game - it is violating the TOS. 🙂

Violating the TOS is one thing, all that's going to happen is you getting banned. The copyright claim claim Blizzard makes here is totally different, and it cost this guy several million dollars. This case in particular doesn't worry me, but I don't want Blizzard turning into the next RIAA just because they think they can score some quick cash suing people.
 
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.

We have a winner!
:thumbsup:
Only time will tell how this gets spun, it isn't gonna be good that's for sure. 😉

Completely disagree. This sets a precedent against hacking and cheating and any precedent there is welcome by me. Botting != modding, that's extremely clear.
 
I approve of the ruling, but you have to admit it will be impossible to regulate botters operating from a foreign nation... Especially one as hostile as China.
 
Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.

We have a winner!
:thumbsup:
Only time will tell how this gets spun, it isn't gonna be good that's for sure. 😉

Completely disagree. This sets a precedent against hacking and cheating and any precedent there is welcome by me. Botting != modding, that's extremely clear.

You're getting lost in the smoke and mirrors. The issue is the legal grounds that are being forged in this case. This applies to much more than the World of Warcraft.
 
If the bots they created causes servers to consistently crash, such as something similar to a DDoS attack like the bots on D2 did at one point, then this payment in damages is justified.

But then again, it's not the company they should be pursing legally.
 
This is not the first time a bot has been released on a blizzard game...anyone remember d2hackit on Diablo 2 LOD -- set for pindle runs baby!
 
You guys didnt read this right. MDY has agreed to pay IF they lose the appeal. Blizzard and MDY agreed on this amount pending a decision. Also Blizzard winning this is NOT a good thing.
 
Anyone in here claiming this isn't a good thing obviously doesn't even know what Glider is and is just assuming Blizzard is going all RIAA.
 
I think part of the problem blizzard has with glider is that is cost $25.00. That is taking money away from Blizzard. You sitting at the PC grinding away trying to get to LV 70= money lost.
 
Originally posted by: Beev
Anyone in here claiming this isn't a good thing obviously doesn't even know what Glider is and is just assuming Blizzard is going all RIAA.

Read the documents before making such idiot remarks, you must not be able to read.

"holds that loading of protected software into a computer?s RAM is ?technically? copying for purposes of the Copyright Act"

Under Ninth Circuit law, the loading of WoW into RAM is copying, and Blizzard may lawfully restrict the right to that copying by license.

If I'm reading it right, Because you accept their EULA blizzard technically can restrict what's loaded, copied, moved, erased from you ram for the sake of "Anti-cheat prevention".
 
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
As much as I hate bots I think this sets a bad precedent. It gives game developers grounds to sue basically anyone who tries to build upon their game; whether in a positive or negative way.

We have a winner!
:thumbsup:
Only time will tell how this gets spun, it isn't gonna be good that's for sure. 😉

Completely disagree. This sets a precedent against hacking and cheating and any precedent there is welcome by me. Botting != modding, that's extremely clear.

You're getting lost in the smoke and mirrors. The issue is the legal grounds that are being forged in this case. This applies to much more than the World of Warcraft.

Totally agree with you Oakenfold. I hate botters/cheaters just as much as any legit PC gamer. They definitely have the potential to ruin games (MMO economy and FPS alike). However, case law is case law... there are some things that you don't want a company to be able to do. I hope blizzard loses this one.
 
I like the guy that blames the addiction on Blizzard and how him using the BOT made his life better. Gee ever thought about being responsible for your own actions.
 
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
I like the guy that blames the addiction on Blizzard and how him using the BOT made his life better. Gee ever thought about being responsible for your own actions.

Ah, the ignorance of youth (whatever your biological age).

When MMO's, for their profit motive, take measures to increase the addictiveness of the games, hiring teams of psychologists to assist, influencing the design using science like that about the maximum addictivess comes from certain stimulation of the brain with random rewards, and this design not only increases their profit but affects thousands strongly enough for the stories on eqwidows.com and other entire sites dedicated to the destruction of the addictiveness, there's absolutely not any responsibility by the company.

Grownups, on the other hand, recognize how people work a little better, and how just because something doesnot hurt most people it's still a problem that it hurts many.

They do things like creating the gambling addiction assistance - and get the signs you now see in casinos for people to be able to call for assistance before they lose their house.

You of course could care less.

None of the above sides with the guy on using Glider - it's fine to ban glider, he can stop playing the game instead of cheating - it just addresses your simplistic attack.
 
Originally posted by: smb
I think part of the problem blizzard has with glider is that is cost $25.00. That is taking money away from Blizzard. You sitting at the PC grinding away trying to get to LV 70= money lost.

Huh?

How does botting make Blizz earn less money? Obviously people who bot still wants to continue playing WoW and pay the monthly fee regardless of how much they actually play or afking in AV cave.

Unless Blizz releases their own botting plugin.

And did Blizz ever address the root of the problem? When you get into BGs with an uneven playing field heavily stacked against your favor again and again no wonder people will want to bot. L2P my ass.
 
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