McVeigh's Lawyer,"He doesnt want to die."

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jadinolf

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<< Come on people, where is your compassion? Your quality of mercy?

Russ, NCNE
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Yeah, let the poor guy go. He'll never do it again.
 

Azraele

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<< Come on people, where is your compassion? Your quality of mercy? >>



Anger clouds many eyes, as does the taste of revenge. Very few can maintain mercy and compassion through such anger.

 

LAUST

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All this after his book and his &quot;I want to die&quot; crap, what a hipocrit.
 

351Cleveland

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Naw... Kill his arse Braveheart style... draw and quarter the whore:

1. Stretch him - tie a rope to each arm and leg and pull in all directions
2. Cut off his nads and burn them in from of his face, although i think feeding them to him would be better
3. Disembowel him, careful to not get too many vital organs as to keep him alive as long as possible.
4. Dismember him limb by limb.
5. Decapitate him if not already dead.

Call me bitter, but I don't like snivelling wimps blowing up children.
 

GL

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<< Come on people, where is your compassion? Your quality of mercy?

Russ, NCNE
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I'm against the death penalty and I'm not terribly moved to help Mr. McVeigh. He knew the rules of the game when he decided to break them 168 times. I just hope those right-wing militia freaks don't &quot;retaliate&quot;.
 

AndrewR

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I thought drawing and quartering involved disembowelment followed by the victim being tied to four horses who would then gallop in the cardinal directions. Sounds good enough for McVeigh.


<< &quot;He doesnt want to die.&quot; >>


Sounds like something he should have contemplated about six years ago.
 

351Cleveland

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Could be AndrewR.. in fact, I like your definition better, except dont let the horses run, but instead walk slowy as to maximize suffering.
 
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Come on people, where is your compassion? Your quality of mercy?

It's a prick of an IV needle, and then 3 infusions. The first is a saline/anesthesia solution, second is a muscle paralyzer to make you stop breatching, the third is a shot of KCl, perfect for causing cardiac arrest.

I would use fireants and a gallon of honey. ...and we can watch it all live on pay per view! The people suffocating under the rubble did not receive any quarter.

Fuch him...
 

Yo Ma Ma

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What is it with all the various tortures people would like to impose on Timothy McVeigh? I go to a Bible study group on Wednesdays and even in there they can't stop ranting.

Who is going to be the next object of all this rage after he's dead tomorrow (actually today, in approx. 8 hrs)? Your angry feelings won't just magically go away.
 

FreeFrag

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Anyone heard of Martin Bryant? He gunned down 38 people at Port Arthur, Australia. We dont have the death penalty, so he is in solitary confinement. AFAIK, he has no visitors, he doesn't even get to socialise with the other prisoners. Now, if I were in his position, I wouldn't mind the death penalty. Think about it; why are you reading this now? You love to communicate with people, every person does. Now, imagine everyone you love, like, enjoy speaking to, gone. How'd you like solitary confinement? Hmmm...not very nice, eh? Wouldn't you like the death penalty?
A nun once told me &quot;Take away someones Freedom and you take away thier spirit&quot;

Also, do any of you actually know WHY McVeigh bombed the place? No? Find out..you may be suprised.

Yo_Ma-Ma, again; a great post.
 

ToBeMe

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<< Also, do any of you actually know WHY McVeigh bombed the place? No? Find out..you may be suprised. >>




McVeigh planted the 7,000-pound bomb to, in his twisted mind, teach the government a lesson for its behavior, particularly the federal raids at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and near Waco, Texas.



 

Kill him get it over with.

He was out to prove the Govt. withholds information, he proved his point and hes going to die.
 

FreeFrag

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Very Good! Nice to see your not just pinning evil on him just because everyone else is. I know that he killed 168 People, but does he really deserve the things some of you are coming up with?



<< I say were bieng too nice to him, we should shove some C4 in his ass then see what happens when it explodes. >>




<< Sit him on a bomb.. and don't tell him when it's going to go off... >>




<< We could slowly skin him... and spray him with lemon juice.. >>




<< . Stretch him - tie a rope to each arm and leg and pull in all directions
2. Cut off his nads and burn them in from of his face, although i think feeding them to him would be better
3. Disembowel him, careful to not get too many vital organs as to keep him alive as long as possible.
4. Dismember him limb by limb.
5. Decapitate him if not already dead.

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<< Stick to something small, C4 would be to quick &amp; painless. >>




<< Give us NJ people some machineguns,and let us do the diry work >>



How'd you like that to happen to you? Ok, so most of you havn't killed 168 people, but even if you did, would you like that? I know your saying &quot;he shouldn't bloody like it!&quot; but really, would you like to be hung, drawn and quartered? Seriously....you lot are acting like a feral pack of dogs, and personally I am disgusted at your comments. How many of you are personally affected by McVeigh's actions?

A life is a bloody sacred thing and rather than parade around and celebrate it they should think about precisely what they take away from this guy...ok, he took the lives of others, but by killing him does that killing right?

McVeigh was awarded medals in the war for killing, and now, for killing, he is being executed. Dont bullsh1t me about the fact that the war and the bombing are two seperate things, i know that. But the fact is he killed in both the war and the bombing. Awarded for one, executed for the other. And now you are going to basically award each other for having him killed.

Well Done America, you have just got one murderer off the streets. No, really, congratulations. You have rallied together for 6 years making sure the Timothy McVeigh is executed when he almost always was going to be anyway, with or without your support.

How about you stop wasting your bloody time and do something constructive like getting drug dealers and the like off the street? No, there isn't any death sentence for the drug dealers who make money out of others dying, but the man who tried to prove a point by killing gets executed.

I am not happy that 168 people died. Nor do I think that McVeigh went about proving his point the right way. He killed 168 people and I agree he should be killed himself. But before you attach his crotch with a weak gun, or drag him behind a horse, or sit him on a bomb, just think how you would like that done to you. Or your Dad, Brother or Son. No matter how bad the crime, the punishments you describe are barbaric and you should be ashamed for suggesting them.
 

tantos

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freefrag: take your America is better then this and shove it. If that was my family in the building he blew up, I would want to flip the switch to fry that loser and send him to hell. Stupid ignorant fool who thinks he's in some kind of war with the US. I too think his humane treatment is better left to someone more deserving than a person who thinks killing innocent children as a necessary evil.
 

RossGr

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I would keep him alive, death is to easy. I would lock him in a cell that is wall papered with the picture of the fireman carrying the baby. Let him stare at that picture for the rest of his life which I would make sure was long.
 

FreeFrag

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My Point exactly RossGr. Tantos, I would &quot;flick the switch&quot; also, but I wouldn't drag him behind horses or shove a bomb up his ass. Read my second post properly.
 

Have any of you actually read the constitution?



<< Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. >>



Anyone posting in this forum is hiding behind the first amendment.
 
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Sammyson -

Having studied Constitutional law, I have to ask...

What is your point? I guess your nose is bent out of shape over the whole &quot;cruel and unusual punishment&quot; thing.

What you are hearing here is merely venting. I seriously doubt that anyone here would do any of this stuff they are spouting about, me included. The problem with the death penalty is that it is SO clinical that it is virtually painless. Compare the pain and suffering that McVeigh went through to what hundreds of people in that building went through... gasping for air, crushed under thousands of pounds of rubble. What you read here was dissatisfaction with the death penalty as an adequate punishment for the heinous crime he committed. This is a means of reconciling traditional concepts of &quot;justice&quot; in the Old Testament and the Quran with the modern reality of justice under the U.S. Constitution.

How am I hiding behind my First Amendment rights? I'm confused why they are even applicable in this case. You don't need to invoke the first amendment whenever you speak at home, or type on the internet. As an aside, your parent's don't have to respect your &quot;fisrt amendment rights&quot; -because you really don't have any as far as they are concerned.

The First Amendment only comes into play when the government (or a quasi-governmental body) gets involved. How can I hide behind something that doesn't even apply.

Also, I can advocate whatever kind of sick, twisted punishment I can come up with because.... (drum roll)

The 8th Amendment is only applicable to the Federal Government and to the states through application of the 8th Amendment through the 14th Amendment. I can say practically what ever I want as a citizen about the death penalty and what I would like to have seen happen to that sadistic little pr!ck, as long as I don't act as an agent of the government in inflicting the punishment. The 8th doesn't apply here either...

Rights exist as weapons thaSo yes - I have read the Constitution.

That being said... I still would have used fireants.
 

dcpsoguy

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FreeFrag,

I wasnt directly affecting by this bombing, but, give me a break, this guy deserves all this stuff and more!