MCSD or MCSE - how long to get and what is difference?
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Microsoft Certified software(or systems?) developer+internet I think
I know one has more to do with development rather then working and maintaining servers and networks.
I know one has more to do with development rather then working and maintaining servers and networks.
Yup,
With MCSD you are either certified to develop using VB or VC++ (you can take either track).
The I is the an Internet focus. (i.e. IIS, ASP, SQL Server, I believe)
MCSE is more of a networking, WinNT/2k server certification
Edit. Time wise, it really depends on your level of experience, which will directly correspond to how long it takes you to get certified. If you are a VB or VC++ guru you could probably go take the 4 core MCSD tests and be done with it. However, if you are starting from scratch it could take you several months... Same goes for the MCSE
With MCSD you are either certified to develop using VB or VC++ (you can take either track).
The I is the an Internet focus. (i.e. IIS, ASP, SQL Server, I believe)
MCSE is more of a networking, WinNT/2k server certification
Edit. Time wise, it really depends on your level of experience, which will directly correspond to how long it takes you to get certified. If you are a VB or VC++ guru you could probably go take the 4 core MCSD tests and be done with it. However, if you are starting from scratch it could take you several months... Same goes for the MCSE
If your thinking of getting a cert why not get a CCNA?
The MCSE has gone thru a makeover and is now a little harder to get from what I have heard.
Go with the Cisco cert.
The MCSE has gone thru a makeover and is now a little harder to get from what I have heard.
Go with the Cisco cert.
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MCSD is what I'd like. I have some experience, but I've never laid eyes on VC++ or Foxpro 6.0 (another core of MCSD). Haven't touched VB in about 1.5 years so I'm a newbie at that effectively.
So, should it be possible to pick up the software and some books and just sit at home and study? Could I expect to do each of the 4 courses (3 core and one elective) in 4-6 weeks? So for a total of 4-6 months total?
Also I wouldn't register for the MCSD perse would I - I would merely take the four exams and once I have them completed I automatically have the MCSD?
So, should it be possible to pick up the software and some books and just sit at home and study? Could I expect to do each of the 4 courses (3 core and one elective) in 4-6 weeks? So for a total of 4-6 months total?
Also I wouldn't register for the MCSD perse would I - I would merely take the four exams and once I have them completed I automatically have the MCSD?
For the MCSD, the Transcender practice exams are great if you can get ahold of them. From what I understand they prepare you _very_ well for the actual test.
Dont put too much stock in a certification though. Employers are finally getting smart to these paper guru's.....nothing replaces formal experience.
Yeah Skoorb, like Engine said, the Trancender study materials are the best. If you can get that you will save yourself a lot of time. The best thing to do is to find a group of friends that want to go in on it with you and you can a split the cost and share it....
who makes really good study materials for the CCNA? i assume the o'reilly name stands well on that?
CCNA you're best with Sybex and the Todd Lammle books. They are BEST!
As for MCSD+I, there is no such thing.
How long does it take to get MCSE and MCSE+I (i have the latter)? It depends on your dedication and persistence, as well as the time you have. Working a FT job and studying, I got my MCSE in 6 months and MCSE+I in 8 months. The +I focuses on Internet and you need to take IIS4 as well as IEAK (this one is rough), and an extra elective.
Also, Microsoft will be retiring the IIS4 exam shortly (end of Feb), so if you want the MCSE+I level, you should take it soon.
As for certification and jobs, I think certification should *compliment* your job since it gives you at the very least, a general understanding of the concepts with the product. For programming however (i've done programming), nothing will replace good ol' hardcore experience.
Good luck!
As for MCSD+I, there is no such thing.
How long does it take to get MCSE and MCSE+I (i have the latter)? It depends on your dedication and persistence, as well as the time you have. Working a FT job and studying, I got my MCSE in 6 months and MCSE+I in 8 months. The +I focuses on Internet and you need to take IIS4 as well as IEAK (this one is rough), and an extra elective.
Also, Microsoft will be retiring the IIS4 exam shortly (end of Feb), so if you want the MCSE+I level, you should take it soon.
As for certification and jobs, I think certification should *compliment* your job since it gives you at the very least, a general understanding of the concepts with the product. For programming however (i've done programming), nothing will replace good ol' hardcore experience.
Good luck!
CCNA you're best with Sybex and the Todd Lammle books. They are BEST!
As for MCSD+I, there is no such thing.
How long does it take to get MCSE and MCSE+I (i have the latter)? It depends on your dedication and persistence, as well as the time you have. Working a FT job and studying, I got my MCSE in 6 months and MCSE+I in 8 months. The +I focuses on Internet and you need to take IIS4 as well as IEAK (this one is rough), and an extra elective.
Also, Microsoft will be retiring the IIS4 exam shortly (end of Feb), so if you want the MCSE+I level, you should take it soon.
As for certification and jobs, I think certification should *compliment* your job since it gives you at the very least, a general understanding of the concepts with the product. For programming however (i've done programming), nothing will replace good ol' hardcore experience.
Good luck!
As for MCSD+I, there is no such thing.
How long does it take to get MCSE and MCSE+I (i have the latter)? It depends on your dedication and persistence, as well as the time you have. Working a FT job and studying, I got my MCSE in 6 months and MCSE+I in 8 months. The +I focuses on Internet and you need to take IIS4 as well as IEAK (this one is rough), and an extra elective.
Also, Microsoft will be retiring the IIS4 exam shortly (end of Feb), so if you want the MCSE+I level, you should take it soon.
As for certification and jobs, I think certification should *compliment* your job since it gives you at the very least, a general understanding of the concepts with the product. For programming however (i've done programming), nothing will replace good ol' hardcore experience.
Good luck!
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The reason I ask is because I have a year's experience with web development (MS Suite) and am having problems finding a job in this depressed area. I was interested in the MCSD (since I now know what it is)...thus I was contemplating putting off looking for a job for a bit and going full time at self-study to try and get the MCSD. So, since I have only a year's experience in programming but I learn quickly I was wondering how long would be a reasonable time to get the MCSD done. As I said I know no VC++, no foxpro, I knew VB well in the past, and I have strong general programming skills.
Additionally, am I right to think I could do the VB one first - and just get my VB certification, and then if I wanted I could continue the MCSD? IE, the VB exam being one of the core in MCSD is not an "MCSD-only" VB cert is it? Its just the standard MS VB cert and happens to be a requirement for MCSD?
Additionally, am I right to think I could do the VB one first - and just get my VB certification, and then if I wanted I could continue the MCSD? IE, the VB exam being one of the core in MCSD is not an "MCSD-only" VB cert is it? Its just the standard MS VB cert and happens to be a requirement for MCSD?
I don't know much about the MCSD certification, but you will need to take the core certifications NO MATTER WHAT to get your MCSD.
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