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Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Oompa loompa doompety doo
I've got a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me

What do you get when you work for a fool
Who thinks you're condescending 'cause you take him to school
What are you at, dealing with a dingbat
What do you think will come of that?
I don't like the sound of it

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Pictured him more as a mix of Veruca Salt and Augustus Gloof. Actually alot of Mike Teevee in there too.

Damn he's a terrible human being.
 

trenchfoot

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Yep, I can hear it now: "You guys can't impeach me when we're at war with Iran, Venezuela and.......what's that other shithole country out there in Africa again?"
 

fskimospy

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Let’s remmeber just how dumb John Bolton is. He still thinks the Iraq War was a good idea.

I would love to see the conservatives here who voted for Trump come back now and talk about how that was still a good idea. My guess is that they will pull a GWB where they will never admit having done so.
 

FIVR

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I highly doubt Putin will be able to stop an erect war boner from Bolton. The guy just finds more reasons to get even more erect than before with prospects of war.

He really, really wants a war with Putin. This has been going on since 2008 when he did his opinion piece "Russia Unromanticized", etc.

Bolton likes Putin, lol.
 

fskimospy

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I remember when people like DSF said that Trump was a better choice because he wasn’t so hawkish as Clinton.

Lol. The dumbness.
 

Jhhnn

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Let’s remmeber just how dumb John Bolton is. He still thinks the Iraq War was a good idea.

I would love to see the conservatives here who voted for Trump come back now and talk about how that was still a good idea. My guess is that they will pull a GWB where they will never admit having done so.

Please. It depends on where your loyalties lie. It's a smashing success from a Zionist perspective. Iraq & Syria are set back at least a generation & they didn't spend a dime or shed a drop of their own blood to do it.
 

VRAMdemon

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Let’s remmeber just how dumb John Bolton is. He still thinks the Iraq War was a good idea.

I would love to see the conservatives here who voted for Trump come back now and talk about how that was still a good idea. My guess is that they will pull a GWB where they will never admit having done so.

Lol...didn't Trump just say recently that the Iraq war was the "single worst decision ever made"?

EDIT: Yep, he did...

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ding-iraq-the-single-worst-decision-ever-made
 

kage69

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I now have a renewed sense of anguish and sympathy for our diplomats and enlisted. Pompeo the holy roller becoming Sec of State is not cool for State employees, who have always enjoyed the default image abroad of being State, not spooks. Now the unhinged, petulant Yosemite Sam of politics is going to be NSC?

Like pretty much everything else Dump has his minuscule hands on, no good will come of this.
 
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bshole

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I remember when people like DSF said that Trump was a better choice because he wasn’t so hawkish as Clinton.

Lol. The dumbness.

While America continues to get into purposeless wars, China secretly applauds our idiocy and grabs another slice of the world economic market. I hope that China is a better super power than America was. I suspect they will be.
 

fskimospy

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While America continues to get into purposeless wars, China secretly applauds our idiocy and grabs another slice of the world economic market. I hope that China is a better super power than America was. I suspect they will be.

China has a long history of invading its neighbors so I wouldn’t get my hopes up. The only reason we think of them as being more peaceful is that in the modern era they were mostly very weak. There’s a reason why China’s neighbors have been so eager to form alliances with the US, they remember how aggressive China is when given the chance.
 

bshole

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China has a long history of invading its neighbors so I wouldn’t get my hopes up. The only reason we think of them as being more peaceful is that in the modern era they were mostly very weak. There’s a reason why China’s neighbors have been so eager to form alliances with the US, they remember how aggressive China is when given the chance.

I dunno, check this out:

In the last 200 - 250 years, China did not start any invasions or aggressive wars. In fact, just in the last decade or so, there were multiple occasions where some other countries dropped bombs, by accident, in China, and China responded with a stern warning. That’s it. China summons Myanmar ambassador after bomb kills four Chinese

There were a few number of war/border incidents. All of them were caused by China being convinced that the one of their neighboring countries intended to invade China and occupy China’s territories. In those cases, China would rather fight in her neighbor’s territory, versus her own territory, because that way, her own civilians are protected from the effect of the armed conflicts.

China’s thinking on foreign policy is 180 degrees different from the dominant Western philosophy - China genuinely doesn’t care about other countries’ domestic politics. You see, the dominant Western philosophy describes foreign countries as “good” vs. “evil”, universal human rights, democracy or not, etc. Everybody and his brother have the right and the freedom to mess with you. China views country administration as mostly a technical profession, like cooking. Say you have peppers and tomatoes and basil leaves, but you also have to use sharp knives and hot fire. If you do something the wrong way, who gets burned or cut? Mostly yourself.

You see, bad policies hurt a country itself the most. Say you keep all women uneducated and at home, there goes 50% of your productivity; you use too much violence to suppress dissenters, then all their relatives and friends will want to get out instead of help strengthen the nation; you don’t spend the money providing universal education, you lose the chance to increase per capita GDP; you have an ossified upper class and down-trodden lower class, you lose the motivation and upside potential from all those lower class people. The country almost always hurt itself the most from bad policies. After a couple of years, they’ll see that they’ve made a mistake, and their neighbors are doing better. They’ll learn and they’ll make corrections. That’s the way life is. You don’t need some other country to be yelling “bad cook” for your mistakes and then stick a knife into your belly, telling you that it’s punishment for your mistakes.

Thus China’s international position may be seen as illogical in the West, but makes eminent sense to the Chinese themselves. Basically, do whatever you want, and learn from it, as long as you don’t let the fire spread to somebody else’s house, or stick a knife into somebody else. Ultimately a nation has to figure out how to cook the dish to her own liking.
 

fskimospy

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If things continue as they are with the midterm elections and it looks like Republicans will lose the House, opening Trump up to huge investigations, I wonder what the odds are he tries to start some sort of conflict shortly before it in order to stave off electoral defeat? Say, bombing Iran or something.

With any other president since Nixon I would say the odds of that were functionally zero. This clown? I don’t know, but it’s definitely not zero.
 

IronWing

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With any other president since Nixon I would say the odds of that were functionally zero. This clown? I don’t know, but it’s definitely not zero.
Reagan had Grenada, Bush I had Panama, and Bush II had Iraq. I see no reason Trump wouldn't start a war for political convenience.