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Tylanner

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
It's not like kissing.

The blood was all over the fries.

It is possible but rare to get HIV by kissing.

This is not the same as kissing.

This is why health care workers wear gloves when they touch people who are bleeding.

The human lip has many cuts and she came in direct contact with the blood.

How do you know that? Were you there watching her?

How do you know she didn't?

You can't prove otherwise. Therefore she has to be treated as if she did.

That is absurd. Sure it's gross, but until there is proof that she contracted some sort of illness or disease from it - she deserves only medical bills and perhaps the modest $10,000 settlement. She doesn't deserve millions of dollars for this.

My point is that we don't know whether she came in direct contact with the blood, how much blood there was, etc. etc. Making these ridiculous statements is worthless.

She only wanted her medical bills paid for at first, but the showed her they didn't care. So now she has to sue them. They should pay punative damages so this isn't done again. 1 Million seems fair to me.

right the point of a large reward is to prevent more instances.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: TallBill
I agree. She doesn't deserve a huge amount. Its not really McDonald's fault for what happened. Its a single employee's fault. (or maybe 2-3 employees).

Have you (or anyone else) thought that perhaps maybe it was truly an accident? Fast food moves at a very quick pace, it's possible that the employee got cut without realizing it (happens to me working on computer cases all the time). It may not have been intentional. And...how much blood was it? Just a little smear? Do we really know all the facts here??

Even if it was an accident, the person is still at fault. I didn't say fire his ass or whatever. Thats up for the employer to figure out.

Well yeah but so many people are like "OH GIVE HER $5 MILLION!!" That's ridiculous. Sure there is fault but if truly an accident it's not like there was any malicious intent with the employee doing it on purpose. The point is we just don't know everything, so people coming on here and saying that this should happen or that should happen is very premature and useless.

Are you reading the same thread that the rest of us are? There are not big demands to have her paid "$5 million" dollars nor are people claiming it was malicious.

Sort of ironic to be asking for facts when you sort of ignore them yourself.

Originally posted by: Tylanner
McDonalds should pay

5-10mil



Say again?

Yes sooooo many people.

Anyhow, if McDonald's very well did ignore her claims then yes, McDonald's should be slammed with something like $5 million in punitive damages.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
It's not like kissing.

The blood was all over the fries.

It is possible but rare to get HIV by kissing.

This is not the same as kissing.

This is why health care workers wear gloves when they touch people who are bleeding.

The human lip has many cuts and she came in direct contact with the blood.

How do you know that? Were you there watching her?

How do you know she didn't?

You can't prove otherwise. Therefore she has to be treated as if she did.

That is absurd. Sure it's gross, but until there is proof that she contracted some sort of illness or disease from it - she deserves only medical bills and perhaps the modest $10,000 settlement. She doesn't deserve millions of dollars for this.

My point is that we don't know whether she came in direct contact with the blood, how much blood there was, etc. etc. Making these ridiculous statements is worthless.

You schmuck, you have to assume the worse, dear Lord it can be somebody's life at stake. THINK!

I work in a laboratory and at times I deal with biological substances (i.e. blood) and if I was to ingest it you always, always, always, always, assume the worse.

Always.

Yes...assume the worst, fine. But she shouldn't be compensated in ridiculous amounts of money until there is evidence that shows that her life has been threatened by whatever illness.
 

3chordcharlie

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Given that she's had to go to the trouble of suing at all when she has incurred medical bills directly because of the incident, I'd say $10k is very indicative of a reasonable person.

It looks like this happened in 2004, so if there was anything really wrong with the woman, she would probably have found out by now.

Somehow firing the employee doesn't seem like much of a solution (unless there's some sort of irresponsible behaviour that we don't know about; if the employee was unaware of the cut at the time, this seems like the usual passing the buck to the lowest point in the chain of command).
 

Tylanner

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
It's not like kissing.

The blood was all over the fries.

It is possible but rare to get HIV by kissing.

This is not the same as kissing.

This is why health care workers wear gloves when they touch people who are bleeding.

The human lip has many cuts and she came in direct contact with the blood.

How do you know that? Were you there watching her?

How do you know she didn't?

You can't prove otherwise. Therefore she has to be treated as if she did.

That is absurd. Sure it's gross, but until there is proof that she contracted some sort of illness or disease from it - she deserves only medical bills and perhaps the modest $10,000 settlement. She doesn't deserve millions of dollars for this.

My point is that we don't know whether she came in direct contact with the blood, how much blood there was, etc. etc. Making these ridiculous statements is worthless.

sigh its not what she deserves its what mcdonalds or the specific franchise deserves...
 

D1gger

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
It's not like kissing.

The blood was all over the fries.

It is possible but rare to get HIV by kissing.

This is not the same as kissing.

This is why health care workers wear gloves when they touch people who are bleeding.

The human lip has many cuts and she came in direct contact with the blood.

How do you know that? Were you there watching her?

How do you know she didn't?

You can't prove otherwise. Therefore she has to be treated as if she did.

That is absurd. Sure it's gross, but until there is proof that she contracted some sort of illness or disease from it - she deserves only medical bills and perhaps the modest $10,000 settlement. She doesn't deserve millions of dollars for this.

My point is that we don't know whether she came in direct contact with the blood, how much blood there was, etc. etc. Making these ridiculous statements is worthless.

You schmuck, you have to assume the worse, dear Lord it can be somebody's life at stake. THINK!

I work in a laboratory and at times I deal with biological substances (i.e. blood) and if I was to ingest it you always, always, always, always, assume the worse.

Always.

There is a big difference between assuming the worst while administering the initial emergency treatment for exposure to a bio hazard and assuming the worst while calculating a financial damage claim months (years) later. For the damages claim all parties have the advantage of knowing what the impact has been.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Tylanner
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
It's not like kissing.

The blood was all over the fries.

It is possible but rare to get HIV by kissing.

This is not the same as kissing.

This is why health care workers wear gloves when they touch people who are bleeding.

The human lip has many cuts and she came in direct contact with the blood.

How do you know that? Were you there watching her?

How do you know she didn't?

You can't prove otherwise. Therefore she has to be treated as if she did.

That is absurd. Sure it's gross, but until there is proof that she contracted some sort of illness or disease from it - she deserves only medical bills and perhaps the modest $10,000 settlement. She doesn't deserve millions of dollars for this.

My point is that we don't know whether she came in direct contact with the blood, how much blood there was, etc. etc. Making these ridiculous statements is worthless.

sigh its not what she deserves its what mcdonalds or the specific franchise deserves...

Why do they deserve to have to pay that much?
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Aimster
It's not like kissing.

The blood was all over the fries.

It is possible but rare to get HIV by kissing.

This is not the same as kissing.

This is why health care workers wear gloves when they touch people who are bleeding.

The human lip has many cuts and she came in direct contact with the blood.

How do you know that? Were you there watching her?

How do you know she didn't?

You can't prove otherwise. Therefore she has to be treated as if she did.

That is absurd. Sure it's gross, but until there is proof that she contracted some sort of illness or disease from it - she deserves only medical bills and perhaps the modest $10,000 settlement. She doesn't deserve millions of dollars for this.

My point is that we don't know whether she came in direct contact with the blood, how much blood there was, etc. etc. Making these ridiculous statements is worthless.

You schmuck, you have to assume the worse, dear Lord it can be somebody's life at stake. THINK!

I work in a laboratory and at times I deal with biological substances (i.e. blood) and if I was to ingest it you always, always, always, always, assume the worse.

Always.

Yes...assume the worst, fine. But she shouldn't be compensated in ridiculous amounts of money until there is evidence that shows that her life has been threatened by whatever illness.

I don't think her asking to have her medical bills paid for is too terribly much to ask for, is it? How, exactly, is this ridiculous?
Paid medical expenses is apparently all she wanted. It was McDonald's that chose to put themselves in this position and now she is pursing a lawsuit.


Originally posted by: OdiN


Why do they deserve to have to pay that much?

It's called punitive damages, look it up sometime.
 

The Godfather

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Whoever said she deserves over 1 million, you need to go jump off a cliff.

Only in America.. 1 million is obsurd, 10k is obsurd, 2-3k sounds reasonable.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Babbles



Originally posted by: OdiN


Why do they deserve to have to pay that much?

It's called punitive damages, look it up sometime.

Yes I understand that part...but what did they do that deserves it?
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Aimster
You people make it seem as if it is not possible to get any diseases by what happened.

If anything she has to get tested for up to 6 months.

"Davis said she continues to have her blood tested, though she has not suffered any illness. She said she stopped eating out for six or seven months.

"I get sick when I think about it," she said."


Pay her bills for testing, yeah. Pay her money because this happened to her, not so much.

So what if she can't eat out? it's doing her a favor.

Yeah, I'm sure there's some emotional distress involved, but that's life.

I will stab you with a needle.

You will have to go get your blood tested up to 6 months because some diseases can take that long until they show up on your blood test.

Also out of fear of having HIV she might and should be taking pills right now as a safety measure. This will help slow down the disease and this is common practice for health care workers just in case they came in contact with the disease.

Sounds like hell for 6 months.

Date of event... November 26 2004. Current Date: February 15, 2006. Well past 6 months.

From the article, I have the assumption that there was a little dab of dried blood on the fry bag from where the employee with the cut finger bumped it and didn't realize it. I'm not saying it's a non-issue, but if that is true, I don't think paranoia for over a year is deserved.