McDonald employee viciously beats mother, 4 yr old son tries to help

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Pr0d1gy

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Your ilk

Get your head out of your ass

lazy dicks like you

excellent little first world twat that's decreed himself more important than most of the rest of the world

dumbshits

sit on their fat asses posting on the internet about how bad they have it,

dirty foreigners stuck in a jungle somewhere

firstworlder shitheads

Yeah, you should definitely seek some help. A superiority complex can become a crippling mental illness if left unchecked. Again, I hope you can one day find peace and happiness outside of insulting and demeaning myself and entire groups of other people.
 
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realibrad

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Woman needs to be thrown under the jail, not in it.

Also, why does it matter if she works at McDonalds or anywhere else? Are companies now singled out because someone that works for them turns criminal?

Lol at the irony of your statement. You think the woman went too far by attacking her physically, so you then want to kill the woman.

I get that you are exaggerating to illustrate the point that you find what she did completely out of line, but it made me smile.
 

nehalem256

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Yeah, you should definitely seek some help. A superiority complex can become a crippling mental illness if left unchecked. Again, I hope you can one day find peace and happiness outside of insulting and demeaning myself and entire groups of other people.

Its not a superiority complex if you actually are superior. A fact you previously conceded.

Some people are sub equal. Some people are not as smart, some not as fast, some not as imaginative.

Well ok. In newspeak I guess we aren't "superior" we are just double plus equal.
 

Engineer

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Lol at the irony of your statement. You think the woman went too far by attacking her physically, so you then want to kill the woman.

I get that you are exaggerating to illustrate the point that you find what she did completely out of line, but it made me smile.

Yes, it was an exaggeration, and I'm not sure how it was ironic. She needs severe punishment (the exaggerated part) for what she did.
 

Engineer

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Yeah, you should definitely seek some help. A superiority complex can become a crippling mental illness if left unchecked. Again, I hope you can one day find peace and happiness outside of insulting and demeaning myself and entire groups of other people.

It helps to put him on ignore. If more people did it, there wouldn't be quote for the rest of us to read (although it was a pleasure to watch LK smoke him in a thread a few days ago).
 

realibrad

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Yes, it was an exaggeration, and I'm not sure how it was ironic. She needs severe punishment (the exaggerated part) for what she did.

Its ironic, because you are advocating for punishment because the perpetrator's reaction was excessive, and you then advocate an even more excessive punishment. So, one would expect that you would want an equal punishment but instead you want an excessive punishment.

You think actions should be met with equal reactions, and then you call for unequal punishment. Definition of irony is it not?
 

Engineer

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Its ironic, because you are advocating for punishment because the perpetrator's reaction was excessive, and you then advocate an even more excessive punishment. So, one would expect that you would want an equal punishment but instead you want an excessive punishment.

You think actions should be met with equal reactions, and then you call for unequal punishment. Definition of irony is it not?

The inclusion of "exaggeration" should have settled this. I guess not.
 

ch33zw1z

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Sad story, but not surprising in the least. We don't know the backstory, but we know the end result. A jury of her peers won't care about the backstory.
 

CZroe

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She admits to vicious gossip and then says that the attacker risked her two children and her freedom for "nothing." Sounds like she's trying to downplay her role.

We don't know what exactly she said that set off her attacker, but I can think of a few things where that would be the expected reaction. What if she said that the woman abused or molested her two kids and someone got DFACS involved? Even if the victim of the lie didn't lose her kids, the person telling the lie more than deserved some kind of punishment. It's hard to get that legally when it's a "she said that she told her that she heard that she..." situation, so expect personal retribution. Sure, it doesn't justify the attack, but be careful about only listening to one side of this.

Think that's far-fetched? Well, it's exactly what a neighbor said about my single mother raising twin boys, prompting DFACS interviews and everything over her vicious lies. My mother never spoke to this woman and probably didn't even know her name before this. She never confronted or attacked her either, but I can't say I would not expect someone else to in the same situation.
 
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Pr0d1gy

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It helps to put him on ignore. If more people did it, there wouldn't be quote for the rest of us to read (although it was a pleasure to watch LK smoke him in a thread a few days ago).

You're right, that is exactly what I need to do. Thanks.
 

realibrad

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The inclusion of "exaggeration" should have settled this. I guess not.

I get that you were exaggeration, but I found the irony funny. I dont know if you meant to be funny, but I just thought it was funny. I'm not calling you out by any means. Just thought it was funny.

Guess I wont be getting an answer to my PM now either lol.
 

DrunkenSano

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Get a proper education instead of being a thug when you are young, then you won't be stuck working minimum wage at McDonalds and thinking that 'keeping it real' is the way to live in a civilized country.
 

Engineer

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Get a proper education instead of being a thug when you are young, then you won't be stuck working minimum wage at McDonalds and thinking that 'keeping it real' is the way to live in a civilized country.

If everyone got a "proper education", who would be working at McDonalds?
 

realibrad

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Get a proper education instead of being a thug when you are young, then you won't be stuck working minimum wage at McDonalds and thinking that 'keeping it real' is the way to live in a civilized country.

Kinda hard to get a proper education when you are poor. As a guy who does not like a lot of social programs, there is a poverty trap that many get stuck into. So while an education definitely helps people get out of poverty, its hard to get one when you have to deal with many other short term problems.

Certainly there are cultural reasons as to why problems happen far more often in poor areas, but I think it takes a little more nuance than get an education.
 

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If everyone got a "proper education", who would be working at McDonalds?

The high school educated? Vocational education? Who says everyone needs a college degree or that college is the "proper" form of education?
 

realibrad

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If everyone got a "proper education", who would be working at McDonalds?

In theory, as the people become more educated, they would become more productive. With higher productivity, the cost per unit output goes down, and you could automate burger production and not require cheap labor to do those jobs.

So if the argument is that capitalism requires the poor, I would disagree. That's reading a lot into your comment though.
 

Engineer

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In theory, as the people become more educated, they would become more productive. With higher productivity, the cost per unit output goes down, and you could automate burger production and not require cheap labor to do those jobs.

So if the argument is that capitalism requires the poor, I would disagree. That's reading a lot into your comment though.

Textbook answer....a theory can neither be proved or disproved, by it's very definition. It would be interesting to test your 'theory' in overlaying the US production graphs with the US education graphs to see how they correspond.

Also, the industry doesn't need more college educated people to automate burger production. I'm sure that there are many people (with deep pockets) that look for that very thing year in and year out (hint: the owners and upper management of said burger joints - example: Wendy's testing 'order centers' in other countries to take your order and transmit it back to the restaurant for someone there to fill the order.)

Of course, the real world, non textbook answer is "proper educated" people would be working at McDonald's.
 

realibrad

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Textbook answer....a theory can neither be proved or disproved, by it's very definition. It would be interesting to test your 'theory' in overlaying the US production graphs with the US education graphs to see how they correspond.

Also, the industry doesn't need more college educated people to automate burger production. I'm sure that there are many people (with deep pockets) that look for that very thing year in and year out (hint: the owners and upper management of said burger joints - example: Wendy's testing 'order centers' in other countries to take your order and transmit it back to the restaurant for someone there to fill the order.)

Of course, the real world, non textbook answer is "proper educated" people would be working at McDonald's.

I know the attempt is somewhat made, when they look at incomes vs education. The assumption is that if you are getting paid more, that you are doing more productive work. We do see a typical trend that higher amounts of education correlates with higher income.

There is also the issue that "education" is a bastard term now, as much of what people pay for is a sorting of who can stick through 4 years and who cant. So many variables would be far beyond anything I could imagine doing.

But, I can imagine automating much of the fast food world, its just that the cost of labor is so low right now, that the demand is better met with labor vs machine.

I would also imagine that much of the fast food world would go away as people command higher wages and want better quality goods.
 

waggy

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lol you guys arguing with Zane. Read his early post. he was nothing more then a useless fucking twat on society that wouldn't even quite drugs to get his wife the medical attention she needed.

so yeah his sense of what is right and wrong is going to be slightly off.

but hey he has been out of jail for a while! so cudos to him!
 

classy

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I had many friends from Salem for many years. It was a violent place then and nothing has changed. That chick will get hers, trust me. What goes around comes around, especially in that place.
 

Zaap

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Yeah, you should definitely seek some help. A superiority complex can become a crippling mental illness if left unchecked. Again, I hope you can one day find peace and happiness outside of insulting and demeaning myself and entire groups of other people.
LOL talk of a superiority complex from a guy who thinks he's so superior he's entitled to someone providing him a gauranteed income. You actually think you're entitled to economic slaves supporting you.

You're just expecting everyone to tell you "oh yeah, you're so special! You deserve to be floated just for existing because you're so fabulous and so special. Billions of others in this world deserve to scrap it out in the dirt while you, little king poobah get to sit on your ass collecting your "guaranteed income" because your little rockstar life is the most important thing ever. And your qualification for this endowment? An accident of geography.

Like I said, keep dreaming. You can't handle anyone telling you the truth rathter than blow smoke up your ass. The politicians you worship and think will grant you your economic slaves? They not only spent every dime they were entrusted with already, their only real plan for you is to what extent you will toil away to keep paying them more... hardly the other way around. Sorry to burst your little bubble.
 

chimaxi83

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Oh I thought this was inside a McDonald's. Just looks like some hood rat beast in the wild doing what they do.
 

Engineer

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The high school educated? Vocational education? Who says everyone needs a college degree or that college is the "proper" form of education?

I'm certainly not. The tone of the post that I quoted certainly did though.
 

realibrad

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LOL talk of a superiority complex from a guy who thinks he's so superior he's entitled to someone providing him a gauranteed income. You actually think you're entitled to economic slaves supporting you.

You're just expecting everyone to tell you "oh yeah, you're so special! You deserve to be floated just for existing because you're so fabulous and so special. Billions of others in this world deserve to scrap it out in the dirt while you, little king poobah get to sit on your ass collecting your "guaranteed income" because your little rockstar life is the most important thing ever. And your qualification for this endowment? An accident of geography.

Like I said, keep dreaming. You can't handle anyone telling you the truth rathter than blow smoke up your ass. The politicians you worship and think will grant you your economic slaves? They not only spent every dime they were entrusted with already, their only real plan for you is to what extent you will toil away to keep paying them more... hardly the other way around. Sorry to burst your little bubble.


I disagree with you on this. Life is special, if special is in the context of human emotions. At some point, it seems cruel to let a person suffer because they cannot produce more than they consume. If the argument is that people need to attempt to be productive that's one thing, but if you are advocating that people should die because they cannot keep up, that's another. Unless you are then saying that every person can be productive enough to live, but then you are into minimum wage.