McConnell vows to be grimreaper for progressive policies in 2020

[Stryke1983]

I dislike the idea of Democrats abusing the system like the Republicans have been doing. I much prefer maintaining the moral high ground. But when one political party stops playing by the rules and throws the idea of 'country before party' out of the window then you aren't left with much choice. It's gone beyond politics, to the point where the Republicans are actually a threat to the well being of the country. So I'm all for shutting them out whenever possible until their members start showing some common sense and decency.

 

[fskimospy]

I dislike the idea of Democrats abusing the system like the Republicans have been doing. I much prefer maintaining the moral high ground. But when one political party stops playing by the rules and throws the idea of 'country before party' out of the window then you aren't left with much choice. It's gone beyond politics, to the point where the Republicans are actually a threat to the well being of the country. So I'm all for shutting them out whenever possible until their members start showing some common sense and decency.

My hope from this, which isn't a huge hope, is that this reminds Republicans that their behavior has costs and consequences.

It's like in most game theory in cooperative games the 'tit for tat' strategy is often optimal, meaning you always choose to cooperate unless the other player defects against you. Then you defect as 'payback' until he starts cooperating again.

 

[Jhhnn]

Also the GOP had both houses in 2017 and 2018 and couldn't muster a majority to do much to the ACA. Most developed countries work under a principle where when the government changes hands the new government could undo the policies of the previous one en masse but it generally doesn't happen.

As for your latter suggestion yes there should always be public debate time for the minority to draw attention to their position. As it stands now though you are correct - it simply adds a supermajority requirement to legislation that was never intended to exist.

They may have destroyed the ACA by doing away with the individual mandate.

 

[GettyRoad]

Conservatives have different rules for Democrats and Republicans. Libertarians and other independents do too. It's just the way things are. If a person is capable of being logically consistent they would have been voting straight Democrat tickets for decades now.

America does not want a Democratic utopia....the party like to tax everything.

You need multiple parties.

 

[brycejones]

America does not want a Democratic utopia....the party like to tax everything.

You need multiple parties.

Da comrade, maybe better English improve quality of troll factory post. GettyRoad poster current output is sub-optimal.

It is funny though hearing a Russian comment on the need for multiple parties.

 

[Commodus]

America does not want a Democratic utopia....the party like to tax everything.

You need multiple parties.

We do, but the current Republican party needs to be upturned. It's corrupt to its core, obstructionist and willing to erode the basics of democracy so long as its representatives get another four years in office. They make the Democrats look like saints.

 

[SMOGZINN]

We do, but the current Republican party needs to be upturned. It's corrupt to its core, obstructionist and willing to erode the basics of democracy so long as its representatives get another four years in office. They make the Democrats look like saints.

And it is worth remembering that under our current system we will always have two parties. If one party dies another rises immediately to replace it, or the dominate one splits. I could easily see the Democrats splitting into two parties, the Democratic Party with the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and the Progressive Party with the likes of AOC and Warren.

I honestly think it is more likely the Republicans will split. The truth is that the current members of the Republican Party has so little in common with each other that they can hardly be considered a solid caucus at all. We can see it in how little that they can get accomplished even when in complete control. All they can really agree on is that they hate the Democrats, other than that they are like three different parties under one banner.

 

[UberNeuman]

Da comrade, maybe better English improve quality of troll factory post. GettyRoad poster current output is sub-optimal.

It is funny though hearing a Russian comment on the need for multiple parties.

HE IS INDEPENDENT SUPPORTER OF PARTY, DA?

 

[ivwshane]

And it is worth remembering that under our current system we will always have two parties. If one party dies another rises immediately to replace it, or the dominate one splits. I could easily see the Democrats splitting into two parties, the Democratic Party with the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and the Progressive Party with the likes of AOC and Warren.

I honestly think it is more likely the Republicans will split. The truth is that the current members of the Republican Party has so little in common with each other that they can hardly be considered a solid caucus at all. We can see it in how little that they can get accomplished even when in complete control. All they can really agree on is that they hate the Democrats, other than that they are like three different parties under one banner.

I agree with the first paragraph but not the second. The Republican party is already dead. Nothing it used to stand for exists now. Once they lose their hold and their corrupt election practices cease working, they will be gone for good.

I thought maybe the Republicans would split too but with qn, almost complete, lack of voices from the right speaking out I now don't see a split happening. What I have seen is some Republicans becoming former Republicans and either going the independent route or actually switching to the Democrat party.

I never thought about it but I think you might be right about the Democrats splitting. It would make sense as the moderate Republicans are more likely to be attracted to the moderate Democrats while the progressive wing demands more progress and change.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

mcconnell has always been a shit weasel, and will always be a shit weasel. He gleefully puts party ahead of country in every opportunity presented.

shit-weasel
In the corporate world, a shit weasel is a person of similar or higher rank who'll stab you in the back, deny he did it, and blame you for the stabbing. The shit-weasel will deflect blame off of himself/herself in order to maintain his/her reputation at all cost.

 

[Viper1j]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...o-be-grim-reaper-for-progressive-policies?amp



Weren't conservatives saying how progressives need to compromise and be reasonable?

Frankly , F you McConnell. you have single handedly done more to damage the country than Trump ever could, as embarassing as he is.

Eventually the AOCs of this country will be in the majority though. It is only a matter of time. These are the words of a dying ideology clutching onto power with a deathgrip knowing that progress is inevitable.

That's why your ass is out in 2020!

 

[cytg111]

R be cornered, there is no sane recovery from Trumpism at this point... And I think you all misjudge how dangerous a cornered animal can be ... Also, factor in that Trump has set a new standard for how to operate in legal land and I would be a tad worried for the future if I was you.
They are already cheating with a finger on the scale.. Cheating some more is no big deal in the scheme of things... Watch it happen..

 

[Fenixgoon]

Mitch continues to be proud of his grim reaper stance and agrees with Pelosi.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mi...me-in-my-memory-i-agree-with-nancy-pelosi.amp

can't have people being represented in the federal govt (DC statehood), receiving much more cost effective healthcare (medicare for all), or pushing for a cleaner society (GND). gotta keep the poors poor, the sick sick, and the rich rich and far away from everyone else.

 

[HomerJS]

America does not want a Democratic utopia....the party like to tax everything.

You need multiple parties.

America does not want a party that refuses to defend America

 

[umbrella39]

History and the American population is not going to be kind to those responsible for the 4 blackext years our Democracy has ever faced. Trump, his criminal collaboraters, and even (especially) the America hating cunts that elected and continue to support the new GOP will be the pariahs tne Nazis were for the next 100 years or so...

 

[Zorba]

Also the GOP had both houses in 2017 and 2018 and couldn't muster a majority to do much to the ACA. Most developed countries work under a principle where when the government changes hands the new government could undo the policies of the previous one en masse but it generally doesn't happen.

As for your latter suggestion yes there should always be public debate time for the minority to draw attention to their position. As it stands now though you are correct - it simply adds a supermajority requirement to legislation that was never intended to exist.

In most other countries it's much easier get kick a party out if you didn't like what they did and there are more than two choices. There are fundamental flaws in our constitution that make it easier for a minority party to come in, inflect a ton of damage and continue to stay in power.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's a foregone conclusion that should the Dems win all three branches that to enact any of the likely promises they've made the legislative filibuster will have to die immediately. Kill it, admit all territories as states, float the US House seat count with population (say 3 seats per million people), and increase the size of SCOTUS by 2 all in the first 100 days.

Then get cracking on policy.

It's been way too long for the House not to have increased in size. The more diluted and granulated, the more democratic (little d).

 

[K1052]

It's been way too long for the House not to have increased in size. The more diluted and granulated, the more democratic (little d).

The current cap is arbitrary anyway. A cap that floats on some formula with population to maintain better representation of the actually will of the people in the "people's house" seems quite logical. I'm open to what the exact ratio should be but certainly much more generous than we've got now.